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    potato4212 got a reaction from dan/california in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from pintere in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Taranis in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Grossman in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from The_MonkeyKing in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Fernando in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Zeleban in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Huba in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    from a laymen's perspective it seems like the U.S is the only option for tanks. If Ukraine wants a large and somewhat uniform fleet of MBTs.  most of Europe is either unable or unwilling to give tanks to Ukraine. Greece and Turkey most likely wont give any as those Leopards are aimed squarely at each other. Spains Leopards are either too broken or too busy deterring morocco. Switzerland wont give any. Austria and Hungary are highly unlikely to give any. Slovakia, Portugal, Denmark, Norway and Czechia barely have any to give. 
    Now countries that giving the current military and political situation are more likely to give Ukraine tanks Poland might be able to give a battalions worth but their stocks are dangerously depleted. they are waiting on their ex marine m1a1 feps to arrive and later m1a2 sepv3s. Finland might give a company's worth. they could give more. But they still seem quite nervous of the Russian army. Sweden could probably send a little more than a company's worth. How many Stridsvagn 103 could they send? Canada could probably send 20ish tanks. Germany if they grow a pair could send a battalions worth plus maybe a 100 more from Rheinmetalls stocks? So in Total perhaps 250 Leopard 2s. 150 of which come from Germany. It seems that at least in the near term Germany is not giving away leopard 2s. 
    what about the other European tanks? Italy has 200 Arietes of which 40 are not in operational units so maybe 20 Arietes? The UK has roughly 400 challenger 2s. they are upgrading 150 to challenger 3s they use roughly 100 more for spares and training. leaving 150 max as surplus. I doubt they would give all 150 spares maybe to Ukraine. If I had to guess the most they will send is 75. France has ~225 Leclerc's I doubt they would send more that 25. 
    So If All of the willing European Nations (plus Canada) send the max amount of tanks they can, without degrading their operational strength too much. (Poland seems willing to Sacrifice its tank capability much more than others) They can muster very roughly 370 tanks. Of wildly different make, model, capability and readiness. In my opinion this estimate is higher than what Europe will send in the near term. But If the political will materializes. They can send and just maybe produce more for Ukraine.
    The U.S Army has roughly 6000 tanks either in active service or in mothball. The USMC no longer has tanks but it did operate ~400 m1a1 Feps of which 116 have gone to Poland. If The U.S simply sends the rest of the ex marine Abrams. That would rival the amount the entirety of Europe could optimistically send.
    I'm sure the U.S army could carry on without 600 Abrams sitting in mothball. Considering These Abrams were meant to fight the Russians. it seems Highly unlikely The U.S will ever need 6000+ Abrams, unless The Chinese Come over the Himalayas. 
    No doubt the Abrams is harder to maintain than European tanks and the factory is in Ohio instead of Europe. But It seems that operating a pure fleet of recently ex marine m1a1 feps, would make more logistical sense than operating A small amount of Challengers, a small amount of  Leclerc's, a small amount of Arietes, a reasonable amount of Leopards that are divided into two different variants. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from sburke in Having trouble getting on Shock Force 2 FIXED   
    So little issue here i'm new to combat mission but liked the look of it so I bought shock force 2 got the installer and downloaded it I activate it problem is when I click on the game my screen goes black an the game closes. I'm just wondering what i did wrong an how I can fix it, plz help...... never mind I did some trouble shooting and re installed it an it works now. 
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    potato4212 got a reaction from Pete Wenman in Having trouble getting on Shock Force 2 FIXED   
    So little issue here i'm new to combat mission but liked the look of it so I bought shock force 2 got the installer and downloaded it I activate it problem is when I click on the game my screen goes black an the game closes. I'm just wondering what i did wrong an how I can fix it, plz help...... never mind I did some trouble shooting and re installed it an it works now. 
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