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Really? I thought that AAR stands for After Action Report. But OK he doesn't need to read it. Just to make you happy I delete it. I thought we compared tactics. I can't even edit it anymore. But feel free to report it. 

All good I remember next time after a while you can't even edit your own posts anymore. Happy gaming. 

It is called in After Action Report don't read them if you don't like spoilers. I tried to delete it but the system won't let me. Happy gaming I appreciate other people's tips but you call them spoilers. Now see or you can win this scenario. 

I liked the grenade launchers on the Strykers. My vehicles were hidden behind the crest as much as possible and with shoot and scoot tactics I put on suppression on suspected enemy OP's. I acquired all the Javelins and used them whenever the enemy gave its position away. It didn't all go my way, and I lost a Stryker. Spoiler there are plenty of IED's. In post processing I blend on screen mode to make the graphics lighter. The lost Stryker must have been an IED. 

Used Screen Mode to make it transparent. 

The battlefield when it was all over the roads were the danger zones. Against a human player it would be much harder the AI just can't hold its fire.

The threat is was Barbarossa winnable. No, it was not the timetable was Christmas 1941 beyond that the logistics were not available. The joker was Japan. They asked for support against the US and Hitler obliged with the formality of declaring war to the US. But Japan stayed out of the war of Germany with the Soviet Union. Result the counterattack of Zhukov with his Siberian units near Moscow. It was game over after that Blitzkrieg grounded down to a war of attrition. If you like history listen to the people who were there that is where historians get their information from. Now we must listen to all sides not only your local university which get increasingly infiltrated by politicians with their own agendas. 

Hitler visits the front and talks to a soldier. Hitler asks: "Friend, when you are in the front line under artillery fire, what do you wish for?" The soldier replies: "That you, my Fuhrer, stand next to me!"

Hitler visits the front and talks to a soldier. Hitler asks: "Friend, when you are in the front line under artillery fire, what do you wish for?" The soldier replies: "That you, my Fuhrer, stand next to me!"

In 640 CE the Ukranians captured Alexandria after a long siege. According to the story, the conquering Ukranians heard about a magnificent library containing all the knowledge of the world and were anxious to see it. But the Getman, unmoved by this vast collection of learning, apparently stated 'they will either contradict the "BLOODLANDS", in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous.'
The manuscripts were then gathered together and used as fuel for the 4,000 bathhouses in the city. In fact there were so many scrolls that they kept the bathhouses of Alexandria heated for six months. 

After so many million Ukrainians were killed by Stalin in the 20's and 30's it seems quite believable that the Germans were welcomed as liberators.  Look at how the Ukrainians still feel about Russia today. 
I again suggest folks read "Bloodlands" for detailed and very readable but well-research academic book on the period.  

To give you the real reason why Barbarossa failed - and to end this nonsense about potential uprising of Soviet people - I will give you some quotes from German sources from the first weeks of war:
 
Yet, in spite of its success, the panzer group’s war diary includes the observation:
Where the enemy appears he f i ghts tenaciously and courageously to the death.
Defectors and those seeking to surrender were not reported from any positions.
The struggle, as a result, will be harder than those in Poland and the Western campaign.
In similar fashion the commander of the XXXXIII Army Corps in Kluge’s 4th Army, General of Infantry Gotthard Heinrici, wrote home to his family on 24 June that the Soviet solder fought ‘very hard’. Heinrici then concluded: ‘He is a much better soldier than the Frenchman.
Extremely tough, devious and deceitful.’
As Bock noted for 24 June:
The Russians are defending themselves desperately; heavy counterattacks near Grodno against the VIII and XX Army Corps; Panzer Group Guderian is also being held up near Slonim by enemy counterattacks.
ne regiment of the division was assigned to assault the Soviet defences which resulted in a tenacious three-day battle. The company commander’s battalion alone suffered 150 casualties. In another infantry division from 4th Army, Lieutenant Georg Kreuter noted on 25 June: ‘We cannot move forward, everywhere there are small battles. Above all at night. .. Very close to me four off i cers have fallen. They will soon be buried together with other comrades in the town [Ozgmowicz]. Under no circumstances can this continue!!’
The following account comes from Colonel Erhard Raus of the neigh-bouring battle group:
It was not so much the numerical superiority of the enemy which made the situation precarious for our command and troops, but the totally unexpected appearance of colossal tanks for which German tanks and anti-tank weapons appeared to be no match. ..Even the concentrated fire of the artillery and all other heavy weapons of the Kampfgruppe [Battle Group] was not able to keep off the steel pachyderms. Though enveloped in fire and smoke, they immediately started attacking and crushed every thing in their paths. Untroubled by the shower of heavy howitzer shells and earth falling down upon them, they attacked road block 121 in spite of the f l anking firee of the anti-tank guns from the wooded areas, rolled over the anti-tank guns dug in there and broke into the artillery area.
About one hundred friendly tanks, one-third of them were Panzer IVs, now assembled for a counterattack. Some of them faced the enemy in front, but the bulk made an assault from the f l anks. From three sides, their shells hammered against the steel giants, but the effort to destroy them was in vain. On the other hand, very soon we had casualties ourselves.
. On 26 June Halder stated in his diary ‘Army Group South is advancing slowly, unfortunately with considerable losses.’
The Operations Off i cer at OKH responsible for Army Group South further noted: ‘Russians are standing their ground excellently;
down here there is exceptionally systematic command.’
Following the war from his off i ce in Berlin, Goebbels noted in his diary:
‘The f i rst big pocket is beginning to close...But they are f i ghting well and have learned a great deal even since Sunday.’76At the front, a liaison off i cer from Panzer Group 3 visiting the 20th Panzer Division reported:
‘Of the enemy there exists the impression that his infantry is many times numerically superior and very good to the bitter end. Colonel von Bis-mark used the expression “fantastic”.’
Already on 26 June Ernst-G¨ unter Merten, a soldier in 4th Army, noted the diff i culty of f i ghting in the densely wooded terrain.
These bloody Russian forests! One loses the overview of who is a friend and who isanenemy.Soweareshootingatourselves. ..TheIIcompanywasencircledand came back with 55 men. ‘Worse than at Verdun!’ said Lieutenant-Colonel von L¨ ohneysen.
h). Yet Hoth’s commentary on the motivation of enemy soldiers was equally enlightening and, if accu-rate, constituted a decidedly adverse development for the Germans. ‘The Russian soldier’, Hoth judged, ‘f i ghts not out of fear, rather idea. He does not want to return to the tsarist time.’ 

You know what, I've never thought about that. Same thing happened to Jock Campbell (PBUH). Africa was saved, so they recalled him to balance it out for the Germans. I imagine the same was done to Patton to give the Soviets a fighting chance.

1) No, Yugoslavia wasn’t the reason it was delayed contrary to public myth.
2) No, it both requires the Germans to act completely differently and drastically overrates how anti-Soviet most people were.
3) Seems irrelevant.
4) Going for Moscow first was sensible. Driving into the caucuses while leaving large parts of central Russia unsubdued would be impossible. 
 
Now back to warrior spirits and Patton being assassinated. @SergeantSqookI agree it seems likely Jock was another of those warlike spirits. I also think it is no coincidence Mussolini “died” as the war ended, but in his case I see him more as a trickster spirit that is common in Native American folklore (like Loki or Wakdjunga).

This thread is no place for dismissiveness, we are discussing hypotheticals after all. 
If you be anymore close minded you will turn into @Rinaldi

I will. But I strongly suggest reading what Peter Hitchen has to say on this subject in his book The Phoney Victory, partly based upon the standard work on the bombing war by Richard Overy. Very balanced and informative. 
I will say no more.

That's what they said about the jews. The difference between good and bad people should be more visible.

Let Hitler and Stalin get at each other's throat and preferably slaughter each other, re-arm the British (and French) forces both in Europe and Asia and do more to prevent the mass murder of the European jews (and give them their homeland as promised during ww1). 

Old Winnie for sure didn't flick peanuts at 'the Hun', but incredible loads of high-explosive bombs combined with firebombs on in the end completly defenceless German civilian targets, like Berlin, Hamburg, Dresden and even smal towns like Pforzheim. Or as a reviewer of the book ' Among the Dead Cities', by A.C. Grayling puts it; 
"The bombing was horrific in its effects, so far beyond anything we can really imagine it that comes over as a kind of zombie apocalypse scenario. Red-hot scenery, hurricanes of fire, falling masonry, corpses burned to shrivelled black puppets, body parts like grilled kebabs in the ashes, cellars filled with asphyxiated bodies: this is the stuff of nightmares, but it was the actual fate of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people in Germany and Japan.
All this was deliberately inflicted by warlords who conceived it to be their duty to civilisation. In particular, Marshall of the Royal Air Force Arthur “Bomber” Harris applied himself to the stern task with unholy relish and pushed hard for the strategy of systematically reducing to rubble all the inner cities he could reach in Germany, at night, with hundreds of bomber aircraft dropping big high-explosive bombs and huge numbers of small firebombs onto each target, dragging civilian men, women and children out of their beds and reducing their warm bodies to cinders, night after night, for years, until he had run out of targets to incinerate."
That's behaviour I would have expected from a fanatical lunatic like Hitler or Stalin, not from the war lord of Britain.
Also as a side-note, the reinforcements/forces for the Greek operation could have prevented the disaster of Singapore/Malaya. If the intervention in Greece was 'good publicity', then the unfortunate, miserable fate of Arthur Percival and his 130 000 men, who went into slave labour and ill-treatment in Japanese captivity nullified that.

They deserved it.

No. But does that make it right?

I agree its very sad. I personally wish the US had been as hard with the French in forcing them to give up their empire as they were with some of these other European countries, especially in Vietnam. Had we sided with Ho Chi Minh and not the anemic French empire we could have avoided the Vietnam fiasco. 

Well, I know that the problem has not been addressed in CMSF2 as was playing a mission with ATGM vehicle launchers recently.  
I have CMSF2 v2.04, Engine 4.  Has there been an update that may have addressed the ATGM vehicies issue?

Have probably played about 15,000 hours with all the playtesting I used to do.  Up to now, it was clear that ATGM vehicles with telescopic launchers or optics on top of the vehicle were very vulnerable as hulldown for them meant that the top of the vehicle was exposed and easy to hit.
If CMCW has addressed that issue, that is wonderful.  

You will never get a confirmation as they keep these things a secret, but everything points in this direction.

I played these games since Beyond Overlord and you find out what works and what doesn't. Hardcover, cover, and concealment is generic. Let the AI decide 90 % of the time eyeballing gives you an idea so does plotting LOS from way points. My point, take a house or building for example. Just one room houses, it gives some protection. Concealment it depends how the algorithm calculates it. A crack or elite enemy will spot you somewhere in the bushes. Play a quick battel on Hotseat against yourself setting, scenario author setting. Test you grazing and plunging fire from the weapons platoon as well as your small arms. Effectiveness of artillery there are no secrets everyone has the same tools.