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  1. FoxZz

    A plea for a French Army DLC

    Yeah the Jaguar is 8 tons heavier than the AMX10RC, but protection is miles away from what it used to be, Level 4 is the base all around protection while it was the max frontal arc of the 10RC, mines protection has also increased dramatically. Bigger vehicles is a trend that you'll see everywhere in the industry and that's why the A400M program is so critical. The Griffon vehicle for example will also weight 25 tons, which is 10 tons more than the Ultima version of the VAB. We will have to wait for the mobility trials, but it's indeed a point of concern on my side considering it's much heavier but remains on a 6x6 format. That being said, huge progress were made in the field of wheeled mobility, and it also has a good power to weight ratio, so time will tell ! Its width was limited by the French rail transportation, otherwise it would've probably been larger. It's indeed almost 1 meter taller than the 10RC, although I suspect those figures to include the optic pods, which are quite tall. The hull is also higher because of different design choices on the chassis (mainly ease of maintenance, mine resistance and cost reductions). I think it will have an outstanding situationnal awarness and recon capabilities, although, all those optics are quite exposed and could be easilly dammaged. But it's also a problem common with most vehicles today. I guess it's a tradeoff that you have to make if you want to have good SA. All crew members will have both an direct optic channel and a TV/thermal channel though, so there is a good redundancy. What I would have liked is a coaxial MG for the gunner in addition to the RWS (and maybe a .50 RWS instead of a .30) , so it can use another weapon with more ammo if a shell isn't needed, a coaxial is also more protected than a RWS. MGs are actually used a lot by tank crews. I'm also disapointed that the longer range version of the MMP was postponed. It is a great missile, but it doesn't use the full potential of the platform considering it could have supported a much heavier missile. MMP is first and foremost and man portable missile. 2 ready to fire is enough I think, it's 8 distributed in a platoon, altough they could fit an additional 2 on the other side of the turret (I think it's planned for export). VAB HOT carried more, but it also needed direct LoS and and to stay put to fire, which isn't the case with the MMP (LOAL, F&F). I'm curious what changes will be brought to the design after the trials.
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    It's a wheeled Combat and Recon vehicle, it will equip the cavalry regiment from the medium brigades, while the cavalry regiment from the heavy brigades will have their Leclerc tanks modernised. It's main armament is the CTA40 cannon, which is basically an improved 40mm in a 25mm package, and it is also equiped with the new 5th gen MMP atgm to deal with heavy armour. It's the equivalent of the British Ajax (which shares the same gun), the Australian Boxer CRV, the USMC LAV-25 or the new army Stryker Dragoon. Although it has a classic tank design, with engine in the back, instead of an IFV conversion. It allows it to be lighter and lower. Although France will lose its wheeled platform with high caliber guns, the autocannon + atgm + automated 120mm combo should make up for it (MEPAC mortar : http://www.tda-armements.com/content/mo-120-mm-2r2m). Base all around protection is STANAG 4, and it can recieve additional armour packages, RPG kits, hard-kill kits. The crew is protected within a survival cell, which is even more protected and mobility elements also received additional protection. So unless it is hit by a full caliber sabot, crew should survive and be able to bring back the vehicle. It also has avery high anti-mine protection and high mobility. 300 are ordered and deliveries should be completed by 2030. Here is an in depth review video, although in Frenchn you can but translated subtitles. Keep in mind it's only the first prototype, designed will be refined with trials before it enters full production. It's the replacement of the old AMX10RCs, ERC90s, and VAB HOT : http://www.janes.com/article/80133/jaguar-prototype-unveiled It is part of the French Scorpion program, which aims at modernising the French battlegroups, especially their vehicles. It is similar to the British FRES/Strike program. It includes the replacement of the old VAB, the wheeled tanks and the modernisation of the Leclerc tank. Here is the replacement of the VAB, without its appliqué armour kit : http://www.armyrecognition.com/french_army_france_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_uk/griffon_vbmr_6x6_multi-role_armoured_vehicle_ebmr_scorpion_technical_data_sheet_specifications.html And here is the 4x4 version : http://defense-update.com/20180212_vbmr-l.html Those vehicles will be in multiple versions, Mortar version (MEPAC), Ambulance, Artillery, etc. Scorpion also includes the Felin infantry program and last but not least the CONTACT radio, which is a new radio software that will equip all the armed forces from tanks and infanry to helicopters and planes, it will allow all those elements to communicate directly together in a "numeric battlefield", it is currently being fielded. It also includes the new service rifles for French troops, the HK-416F, and a new ATGM replacing Milan and HOT, the MMP. http://www.armyrecognition.com/france_french_army_light_and_heavy_weapons_uk/mmp_mbda_medium_range_anti-tank_surface-to-surface_missile_data.html https://sofrep.com/65812/hk416-new-rifle-french-armed-forces/ Basically in the 2025, French medium brigades will be mainly made of the Jaguar Recon vehicle, the Griffon 6x6 and 4x4 and the CAESAR 6x6. The Heavy Brigades will have Modernised Leclerc MBTs, VBCI 8x8, and the CAESAR 8x8. Hope all this answer your questions. Do you disagree or are you surprised by the design/concept ? @kinophile
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    Not the good way to do it imho. At platoon level it should be a M240B not a M249. I think it would have been better to look for a lighter saw, something like that for example: https://www.knightarmco.com/12627/shop/military/lamg
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    For those interested, the first prototypes for the replacement of the old AMX10 RCs, ERC90 Sagaies and VAB HOT are out ! https://www.edrmagazine.eu/france-jaguar-unveiled-ahead-of-eurosatory-exhibition
  5. Ok, lol, it's indeed much more understable now ! Thanks !
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    I'm not convinced by the 300% increase in firepower. An IAR is just an HK 416 rifle with a bipod, an acog and a 16" barrel, so basically, a better M16A2. I hardly see how it replaces a M249 and its much bigger supressive fire abilities.
  7. I must say I'm confused by your use of component in this sentence, what do you mean haha ? Very intesresting anecdotes though, always funny to have the other side views ! ----- To get back on the previous discussion, I agree with the fact that most of German Armed forces problems don't come from money. Even though they could definitely invest a lot more in defense considering their GDP and general wealth. When you look at the actual budgets, German, French and UK budgets are more or less in the same league, but there is a huge capability/readiness gap between France and UK and Germany. And it is even more striking when you consider that German armed forces have a much smaller navy, no nuclear detterent forces, no bases abroad and a lot fewer deployments. So with this level of expenditures and comitment, they should really have a much capable force. I really thing the problems comes from an organisational/cultural standpoint, and that before giving it more money, those problems shoud be fixed first otherwise it would just be wasted. If you were increasing the French and German budget in the same amount, probably the French/Brits would get twice the Germans return. I think it is very much link to how the German army spends its money and how it is organised. That was my take on the issue.
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    I think Russians would veto any UN intervention and directly invade Ukraine themselves. And it would be difficult to oppose them considering you're describing a failed neo-nazi Ukrainian state and massacre of Russian minorities. Supporting the western regime would actually be a crime against humanity and nobody would risk it in the west. The West would face a situation very similar to the situation the French faced in Rwanda. An ally governement (Habiarimana/Perrechenko) is facing a rebellion supported from abroad which is ethnically different and with another language (Tutsi RPR supported from Uganda and English speaking/ Dombass separatists, from Russian minorities, speaking Russian and supported by Russia). Things go wild and a genocide starts, organised by your ally against the opposing ethinic minority (Hutu kill Tutski/Ukrainian kill Russian minorities). You want to support your ally but also stop the genocide. This inconfortable position only brings you international condamnations. So in this example, either Nato gets involved and will be accused of complicity of Genocide (exactly what happened to the French in Rwanda) or you get out of it and you let your ally bite the dust, which will eventually happend anyway, since he's on the wrong side of the argument and that the other side is supported by Russia. But in your example, I really don't see why the French would have to fight the US. It's possible that they disagree with a NATO intervention beacause they learned their lessons in Rwanda, in that case, if the US still wants to go, Frannce would just not go, as it did in Irak in 2003. And if they decide to get involved, they would share the same objective as the US : preventing genocide, avoiding Russian take-over. But the hypothesis of France and US fighting (for what reason really ?) each other is very much unrealistic, as is the an UN peacekeeping force anyway. That being said, tensions between peace-keerpers and "allied nations" do occur. In 2008 in Lebanon, Israeli air force killed several European blue helmet, and French peace-keapers and Isreali almost fought at 2 occasion. One was attacking-behaviour by Israeli F15s on French bases that almost prompted a Mistral fire, another one was when israeli attempted to breach the ceased Fire line with a several hours stand-off between Leclercs and Merkavas. But this was a completly different situation. A nation attacking UN peace-keepers in a direct confrontation would meet international outcry anyway.
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    Who's winning the tank war?

    To be honnest, having best gear doesn't really matters, as long as there is not a huge gap between the two (like T55 vs M1A2). What really matters is experience of the crew, training, speed of planing, quick decision making, coordination between branches, support, etc. The tank is just a smmall part of it. People tend to focus too much on it. There is plenty of examples where OPFOR forces with inferior gear, wipe the floor with regular army units in their last generation tanks. Human factor will always be the most important one. If Desert Storm was such a cake walk, it was mainly because of the training, not the tanks. You could have swapped the gear, result would have been the same.
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    I really wasn't sure it was Russian, but definitely sounded very similar. I should probably have checked before hand :p.
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    http://www.lrt.lt/mediateka/irasas/1013687203/karines-paslaptys-2018-03-17-karines-paslaptys-s3-ep29 Here is a video about the French current deployment in Latvia, comments are in Russian though, but you can see all the vehicles I talked about in the topic as well as the BVS Viking which is used by the moutain troops (in snow camo). There is also a Dutch engineer platoon.
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    Yeah definitely, I would love UK to be in too. It would make a lot of sense to have both in a Entente Cordiale DLC, they work together very often and are very much alike and complementary. Poles would be very good too. The more nations are in the more I will be happy anyway, diversity is great !
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    Thank you for your comment, very appreciated But I don't understand the second part of it , what do you mean ? France really is permanent member of the Security council and 3rd nuclear power (both in number of warheads - although, far behind ones of the US and Russia - and capabilities). Even though nuclear weapons in CM:BS are really not relevant considering a direct affrontment could occur only if they are set aside, such a status implies great responsabilities on the international stage. That's why I made this statement, to back my argument about France being very likely to be involved, it wasn't meant to be taken as a nationalistic bragging :). Hope this clears the misunderstanding
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    A plea for a French Army DLC

    It's true for whine, I think it's supposed to be 1 glass per person per day or 1 can of beer. About the gourmet food, our MREs are quite well known abroad. I think the exchange rate in Afghanistan was 1 French for 3 americans. And French cooks are quite good too. If France ever gets into CMBS they should get better morale thanks to the food haha
  15. Hello all, As it's rumored that this game is expecting several DLCs, I take this opportunity to make a plea for a French DLC, or a LDC including the French. Why should the French be included in a DLC over other nations ? First, let's look at the setting. Game setting is placed in Ukraine, at the border of Europe in 2017/2018. France is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, it's the third world's nuclear power, and the first military power of Europe (if Russia doesn't count as Europe). Diplomatically, France has been at the forefront of the discussion on Ukraine, being at the initiative of the Minsk II agreements, and is as such very involved on this matter. Historically, France is a very active military power and has significantly taken part in all the majors conflicts since the end of the Cold War : Gulf War, Yougoslavia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Lybia, Mali, Syria, etc. Furthermore France is regularly (and currently) involved in NATO and bilateral military exercises in Eastern Europe which show its commitment to the security of this region. Lastly, France would probably be able to come very quicly into the theater with significant amount of troops having a very high readiness and being located in continental Europe. All those elements make it almost certain that France would get involved in a conflict in Ukraine. On a gameplay point of vue, we would get a ton of exotic toys. Most of French gear and vehicles are indegenously devlopped. It would be also very refreshing as French military very rarely depicted in the Video Game industry (at the exception of the Warhame series). French army is also very modern and would be balanced with US and Russian military. Interesting fact, French army is the only to have fielded operationally its future soldier system program. French army also has an orginal doctrine which differs from the US or Russian one: emphasis on mobility, flexbility, and initiative, even at the lower echellons, which comes from its exprience in irregular warfare. It influenced many of its military design, with, for example, an emphasis of wheeled vehicles. As such, many asks, how would this system fare in a more conventionnal context ? CM:BS gives us the opportunity to test it. Here is a link about French Doctrine https://wavellroom.com/2017/11/30/the-french-intervention-in-mali-a-lesson-in-mission-command/ Moreover, as I said, French armed forces are very rarely depicted in video games, and French video games market is very dynamic one with 4,3 billion euros of revenue in 2017. So it would probably attract many French players eager to play their national forces (even if they're not very vocal on english speaking forums) while also attracting players from all around the world interested in brand new faction. Lastly, French forces are the only major military power never depicted in a modern CM game. We had the US, Russia, Canada, UK, Germany, Netherlands, but not France. Operationnal structure : The basic infantry combat squad is made of 8 soldiers: 1 squad leader, 1 marksman, 1 300m fire team with 1 team leader and 2 AT4 soldiers and 1 600m team with 1 team leader, 1 minimi soldier and 1 light mortar soldier. There is 3 combat squad in a platoon as well as one support squad made of 1 squad leader and 2 Eryx teams, which can exchange the Eryx against M240 MGs. Lastly, the platoon is led by a 4 men command team with one platoon leader and its deputy, one radio operator and one medic. 3 infantry platoons are supported by a weapon platoon with two 81mm mortars teams and two MILAN atgm teams, those teams can also be armed with .50 calls or .30 calls. This makes a company. The French cavalry platoon is made of 4 tanks (Leclerc or AMX10RC) and 4 armoured scout cars (VBLs). There is also a recon platoon made of 8 scout cars with different equipments (Milan, .50, .30, etc) The compagny is the center of an infantry centric French operationnal Battlegroup. Then, it receives several reinforcements from other arms. Usually, a cavalry platoon, an artillery battery, a engineer platoon, a recon platoon as well as support elements (Snipers, JTACs, Commandos, Logistics, Transmission, Health and Oil services, etc). If the battlegroup is cavalry centric, then, its made around a Cavalry squadron, with the support of an infantry platoon, etc. There is also the possibilty of mixing it up with two infantry platoons and two cavalry platoons, etc. Those battlegroups are part of a broader battallion which can either use them dispersed or together. Usually it's made of 3 infantry compagnies and 1 tank squadron and the support elements. The proportion between tanks and infantry varies in the same fashion as in BG depending of the need. Nowadays, French troops are always deployed in Battlegroups or Battallions. Regiments, Brigades and Division are only used as adminsitrative command levels in metropolitan France. As of 2017, here is a list of indigenous French army armament : - Leclerc MBT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_Leclerc ; http://www.military-today.com/tanks/leclerc.htm - AMX 10 RCR wheeled tank: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/France/AMX-10-RC-RCR.php - VBCI IFV: http://www.military-today.com/apc/vbci.htm - VAB line of vehicles, including ULTIMA version with remote .50 cal, Mephisto version with HOT missiles, 20mm version, etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Véhicule_de_l'Avant_Blindé - VBL scout vehicle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Véhicule_Blindé_Léger - PVP liaison vehicle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petit_Véhicule_Protégé - 120mm Rifled Mortar, its rifling permits to fire bigger shells (similar effect than 155mm shells) at longer ranges than regular mortars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortier_120mm_Rayé_Tracté_Modèle_F1 - CAESAR 155mm SPG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAESAR_self-propelled_howitzer ; https://www.army-technology.com/projects/caesar/ ; http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1470.htm - 81mm Mortar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLR_81mm - FAMAS assault rifle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAMAS - FRF2 and HECATE II sniper rifles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_F2_sniper_rifle ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM_Hécate_II - MILAN 3, ERYX and HOT 3 ATGMs: https://www.army-technology.com/projects/milan/ ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERYX ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOT_(missile) - Mistral MANPAD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile) - Tiger HAD and HAP attack helicopters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_Tiger - Gazelle HOT scout helicopter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aérospatiale_Gazelle - Rafale fighter-bomber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale - Mirage 2000D bomber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_2000N/2000D France interesting bits of kit : - Rifle Grenades, both anti-tank and HE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC58 ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APAV40 - Infantry mortars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance-grenade_individuel_Mle_F1_(LGI_Mle_F1) - BONUS anti-tank shells: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_155_Bonus - SPACIDO precision fuse: http://www.nexter-group.fr/en/press/528-spacido-la-france-engage-la-phase-finale-de-la-qualification-du-premier-systeme-dartillerie-a-correction-de-trajectoire-de-nexter-munitions-et-junghans ; http://basart.artillerie.asso.fr/article.php3?id_article=1341 - FELIN system, with special optics and improved situation awarness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FÉLIN - AASM self propelled stand-off bomb, with a low altitude launch range of 15km, which allows the plane to escape long range anti-air missile while staying out of range of SHORAD systems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AASM Here are some videos where you can see most of the gear I talked about : In 2017 in Estonia, where you can how would look like a French Battlegroup in CM:BS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tzEyWL-zo& Combat actions in Mali where you can see VBCI, VAB, AMX10RC, shoulder launched Eryx, Rifle grenades, infantry mortar, Hecate II, Tiger, etc So, as you saw, lots of interesting and cool stuff could get added into the game with a French DLC. I hope it will convince you ! DOn't hesistate if you have any question. Here is a last video to convince you of the awesomeness of the French Army