Wiggum15

The problem is that CMx2 runs rather badly even on some, high-end PC's (drops below 25FPS on medium sized battle) if you not significantly reduce details (mostly models).
That should not happen.
Also, the loading times are too long. Loading big CMBS scenarios takes me and others 5min...
I hope this can be greatly improved !

@ Steve
Im not trying to Troll.
Would a troll have supported you by buying CMAK, CMSF, Marines Module, British Module, CMBN, v3.0 Upgrade and CMBS !
All i do is criticize some aspects.

No fair! I almost choked on my sandwich. My wife was about to start with the Heimlich maneuver. You gotta warn people before tossing things like that out there.

You always say "be nice and we can have a discussion"...
But how "nice" can you be if you want to criticize something ?
After every suggestion for change the first thing you hear is either:
- no its fine you are irrational
or
- will never happen they are a small team

Them you say "hey but the BFC marketing suggests this is a ->new<- game so whats ->new<- about it except textures and scenarios"
Then it goes one downwards from there people are calling you aggresive aor wish you would die in russia (actually happened)...

Im done with it, you cant criticize anything about the state of the engine or BFC's business model without getting your thread locked.
And by the way i dont see all those threads criticizing CMx2 or BFC, they are non existent. Only "polite" bug reports and happiness.

I dont know how much longer you can ride the CMx2 train without significant change, i just hope you dont wait till its to late.
I was always a BFC and CM fan...

I could answer to IanL but it seems pointless to discuss with someone who puts everyone who has a different opinion on his ignore list...i mean Stagler is there too ?

Lets face it:
Someone has a complain about CM
-> you guys tell him you dont see the problem, its no bug, his PC is trash, his conclusion is invalid, go play something else, dont buy it then, or if you for some reason think his point is valid that BFC does not have time/money to fix/add it anyway.

So what ?

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas.
Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car.
If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you.

Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes.
No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues.

Sorry, iam disappointed !
(But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

So while BFC was busy improving their game to remove borg spotting to make the game more life like the US army was busy bringing borg spotting to life.  How's that for irony.

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas.
Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car.
If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you.

Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes.
No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues.

Sorry, iam disappointed !
(But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas.
Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car.
If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you.

Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes.
No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues.

Sorry, iam disappointed !
(But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

I always thought that was a feature of CMBS ?

Why fantasy ?
Just because i criticize the direction they are taking ?
Do i ask for completely unrealistic improvements ?

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas.
Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car.
If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you.

Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes.
No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues.

Sorry, iam disappointed !
(But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

I would Say that 90% of CMBS comes from SF and 90% of all other WW2 titles comes from CMBN... It's called recycling old stuff for a new full price game.

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

Not that scout missions are already suicide in CMx2...

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas.
Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car.
If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you.

Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes.
No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues.

Sorry, iam disappointed !
(But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

I don't care about graphics.
I don't care about FPS.
I don't care about visual air support.
I do care about correctly modelled equipment capabilities... *cough M2" engine" armour, blind-Russians*
 
But 4.0, please please please please, let us have a lobby we can go to to find MP games.

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

What playtesting ?
The scenarios are not updated at all.

And what miracle ?
No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

?? Is that a joke.  Well I'll take it that way
 
Sometimes it is pretty obvious things are screwy.  Sometimes it take a lot of testing to find out what is wrong.  Sometimes its just screwy expectations from us war gamers.  Mostly it is the latter.

It's rather unhelpful when someone expresses an opinion and the discussion immediately veers off into attacking the person because of the words he used rather than considering the content of his post.
 
I agree that the campaigns are very weak (and seeming to get weaker) compared to the ones we had in previous releases.  CM2 allows for a great deal of sophistication in campaigns what with branching, being penalized for using too much ammo or losing too many men and materiel or damaging buildings etc.  What we're seeing now (in all the recent CM2 releases) are campaigns where (usually) little or none of that matters anymore.
 
I suspect that the vast majority of customers play vs the AI.  Campaigns are the best way to experience CM2.  And also, this is an entertainment product with wonderful verisimilitude.  But, customers need content to play the game.

You are getting hung up on semantics. My goal was not to diminish anyone's work but to point out that for AAA title price, there was simply not enough of it. At this time I played Rus and Ukr campaigns/scenarios (don't enjoy playing NATO) to the point where they have holes in them and simply want to continue playing this great game (with your great mods btw), but there is just nothing to do. Situation reminds me of pre-Escalation Arma 3, where a great foundation was laid, but one was stuck with tumbleweeds, crickets and Persian spacemen for content.
 
And this is considered rude? Seriously? Is only praise allowed? Is this not a product that BF sells at quite a premium? If you buy a car that is missing pieces, will you sing praises to the brand engineers because they "worked hard", were short-staffed and had 5 other models to worry about? As I said before, I wouldn't have a problem with any of the current scenarios if there were more of them, but when there is so few the quality and complexity bar has to be set a lot higher. Especially when we all know from previous titles that BF can do a lot better.