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VladimirTarasov

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  1. Congratulations to America on the election. Looking forward to Russia and the US having better relations.
  2. There could be alot of applications depending on the scenario. And there have been a lot of times where I myself if I were in those situations would stay mounted in the commander seat while the rest of the inf do their thing. But of course, if there are coding limitations there isn't much to do about it
  3. Absolutely, IFV and infantry are always near each other. My squad is pinned down in the building? "Ivan, blast that building to shreds" it's key to operate togerther with these vehicles. It's also good that they are heavily armed with 30mm cannons. That's why BTR-82As have 30mm cannons, now instead of being a troop transport armed with a mediumish cannon, it now can function as a IFV of sort. Also it adds direct firepower support to our forces, if I'm advancing say from a treeline to open field to urban environments, I can have my BMD/BMP just shred points where I can take fire from. And again, Russian tactics do depend on heavy firepower.
  4. Busy week finally back on the forum some interesting stuff happened lately In regards to the commander seat in the BMPs, it is more than plausible for the Squad Leader to stay in the vehicle when operating. A scenario for example; the squad leader orders the dismounts to take control of a building while in close fire support the commander stays in the vehicle. A split commander option would be nice because even when doctrine doesn't call for there to be a permanent commander, at times the Squad Leader is more than capable enough depending on the given situation to stay in the commander's seat. I was operating in a BMD unit and situational awareness through the commander seat was horrible(driver could see better than me). However on BMPs (speaking specifically about the BMP-2) the commander can opt to stay in and it would offer advantages to the squad+IFV effectiveness. But of course, if he must dismount and lead his squad through a situation he can choose to do so.
  5. True probably that happened. Which is what I was getting to if the most likely case of militias downing it is what happened. Thanks for agreeing for once geez. There are targets such as that in Syria, rebels don't actually build buildings to place their ammunition, command points, "barracks" into. They use the local housing. The rebels don't have any army of tanks, but they still have a large armor pool compared to other "insurgent" type forces. But these guys fight more of like a barbaric army, where they lack in airpower they make up with it using suicide bombs, VBIEDs are their favorite tool as noted in Aleppo. Anyways bottom line I agree that clusterbombing an apartment block is reckless and very stupid. Ukrainians have used heavy handed operations not similar to the casualties in Syria of course, but similar. I can't blame Ukraine's government for heavy handedness in targeting the rebels but the case in Donbas is very very different. We can all agree that the rebels in Syria sponsored by Putin the dictator and evil man himself, their goal was strictly the pro-Russian region which has local support. In essence the rebels are not throwing the jeopardy of the whole nation state into the trash, but fighting for a local goal. @Steve I'm going to write to you tomorrow because it's high passed my time for sleep
  6. Thanks for that information, but there are many other ways on determining if it was a civilian airliner or not if it was a Russian unit. Obviously a plane headed directly towards the Russian border at high speed and altitude indicates that this was either a rookie mistake, ill-equipped. Or on purpose. something a local militia unit could do lacking, the long period of training and constant guidance from Russian command, plus this system would need permission before engaging it, indicating this is either a under-equipped militia unit, or it was deliberately shot down by Russia with permission from the top, or as some other theories put it Ukraine did it to grab support. Without knowing everything using common knowledge we can take the main confirmed evidence that points the barrel at who could have done it. (pointing at the militia) they shot it down probably assuming it was Ukrainian recon or something. But what makes me very more uncomfortable about this whole situation is how Kiev tower let this plane fly over a region where dozens of planes have been shot down. I'm not trying to justify what happened in anyway, but this is the blunt of it IMO. No Russian BUK unit even if separately attached to a unit (God knows why) would dare hit that plane without radio into command. Command will then verify it, and then launch will be permitted considering this plane was flying at commercial liner altitude and at commercial liner speed. It just doesn't add up to me unless the Russian command actually allowed it to be hit or UAF. All this reminds me of a incident in the pass flight 1812, not that it's relevant. Guess since it happened in Ukraine as well.
  7. Not only that, militia's captured BUK system from Ukrainians... considering the local militia had alot of ex military from Ukraine. Anyways bottom line is it's not fact that Russian military shot it down, but it is more likely for the Militia to shoot it down on accident. Which doesn't really justify anything... Probably IF militia shot it down they didn't admit to it because of the huge amount of pressure they were already facing from the international stage for opposing the government I think they approved of (or did they not? can't remember)
  8. There is no evidence that a Russian unit shot down this plane. If it was a militia unit, that's with them. Do we really have to go into detail for that one? Russia can identify a civilian airliner using BUKs, if you imply Russian army shot it down on purpose, then that makes no sense either. As I've said before there's three things that could have happened. 1. The Russian army knowingly shot down the airliner (no evidence of this one) 2. Militia shot it down accidentally (the tweet about hitting a military aircraft around the time of the shooting) 3. Ukraine hit it for the support of the international community (Kiev tower telling the plane to go to a lower altitude and allowing it to fly over the zone) now to me the second one is the one that happened and I wouldn't buy the other theories unless something else shows up. So let's not bring about a case that's already a cluster of messed up. Russian government initially claimed it was a SU-25 (embarrassing claim) Ukraine claimed the Russian military shot it down (BS as well, the radars deployed with these units easily can tell it was an airliner) for the time being it was most likely a under equipped militia unit responsible. I know about the incendiary weapons being used and the other cluster munitions, sadly I see collateral damage from these weapons have happened. Definitely not proud of that, but even with these wrongs I'm still very inclined to support the government forces rather than the other rebel groups, due to many other reasons that aren't indiscriminate like child beheading, forcing religion, general radicalism, and savagery. Where as, I understand these cluster munitions lead to excessive deaths they are not purposely used to hit civilians, very reckless however... No argument there.
  9. Thanks for pointing that out. Lowers their credibility to almost zero. Sorry for that guys, I could have swore I seen that video earlier in the title for Aleppo too... Dumb internet. And I'm not a putinbot. I'm a propaganda specialist I get payed hourly potato bags to defend Russia on the CMBS forum. Anyways since that is debunked I give my apologies, but still, obviously rebels still have positions built in these urban environments which causes heavy collateral damage because of that. I agree that was reckless and hopefully it was the only such case, the other clustermunition videos I've seen were generally open terrain and targeting valid targets. Russian military overall has harsh punishments for mistakes like these. No actual confirmation other than reports, but it appears that the Government side has used gas but so have the rebels. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/aleppo-update-rebels-use-poisonous-gas-battles-intensify/ We do use modern munitions, but as I've said mostly SVP-24s on dumb bombs, but I've and you've pointed out it has a 20 meter CEP at high altitude, not good if you want to hit a command post next to a apartment block.
  10. Precision weapons are still going to kill civilians, but the video duchess shared is overkill, and most likely resulted in collateral damage that could have been avoided if cluster munitions weren't used for that mission. I'm not sure if you know, but in S Aleppo there are 1070 apartment projects where it's total rebel control no civilians, where bombs like these could be used without worrying about any collateral damage but I'm not sure if that was the case in the video Duchess shared.
  11. That's definitely not a justified case, can you get me a confirmation whether or not that was Syrian or Russian? If so definitely a case to bring up. I know rebels can be spread among large areas, but this is not one I'd be proud of. A f*** up on the Syrian or Russian government's side. Is there an aftermath picture/video where we can assess what was targeted? Edit: Nvm looks like a SU-30, Russian jet.
  12. For low altitudes it can achieve 5-10 meter CEPs is what I read from some analysis, but for high altitudes this number is not true and it gets more bigger. And thanks for your input cool to hear it from an actual pilot. If this was the medium-low intensity warfare like insurgency the US faced in Afghanistan then I would agree with your point. But these guys fight in actual conventional formations, and have army grade equipment in alot of cases. I know what you're talking about, I seen the footage. But we need to study the case in detail, if RuAF has deliberately dropped a clusterbomb just to hit a few trenches then that is totally not justified and must be brought forth into the UN. Considering many factors that could take place, that doesn't justify the rebels side one bit. More so it shows you how embedded they are within the populace, even with their high intensity warfare formations. Russian Aerospace Forces
  13. I don't care if it was in Pyonyang, it provides evidence in that link I shared.
  14. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-ypg-storms-islamist-rebel-positions-aleppo-city/ It's not uncommon to have ammunition loads like these stored in urban environments with civilians still around in the area. This is just ammunition depot, you can do further research and see command points. Their numbers are anything but small, and in most cases they have IFVs, and tanks captured from the regime in support. Just like in the recent offensive in SW Aleppo where ATGMs took out a dozen or so armor that belonged to the rebels in their new offensive. Those guys have conventional power as well, it's not just infantry. Bombardment in East Aleppo has ceased for 11 days now on the part of the RuAF, to allow civilians to pass through corridors, and just a general humanitarian pause. Anyways the rebel force in East Aleppo is anything but a few hundred, Syrian intelligence estimates atleast 2K. Plus they have been conscripting the local populace as well, usually forcefully. If the rebel numbers in East Aleppo were a few hundred, the 10-15K SAA force in and around Aleppo would be pushing through it with relative ease. What should bother you more than Russian and Syrian bombs accidentally hitting civilian positions while targeting militants should be this: https://southfront.org/syrian-moderate-rebels-use-children-as-human-shield-for-mortar-emplacement/ literally children 10 meters away from the mortar piece.... What kind of results were you waiting for? I'm deeply sorry for the civilian population, but everyone knows that these radical groups must be eradicated. In this case, if Russia used a KH-25SM precision missile those children would be dead anyways. Let alone that, if a drone lazed the mortar sight and precision artillery was called in those kids were dead. I understand where you are coming from, but we can't just pretend Russia and Syria are at blame for these casualties, if the rebels aren't allowing these people into the safe zones the government offers. Oh no of course Iraqis made some really dumb claims, but the website's options seems to show one for US coalition ONLY from 2003. Anyways I wasn't comparing anything other than the fact that even with superior equipment, precision, prowess, training. Collateral damage happened. And I was only saying that to give you an idea on why there is so much collateral damage on the government's side. Since the best airplanes they had until Russian intervention were SU-24s from the 80s. I agree, SVP-24 has GPS, and all the other calculations for bombs, the pilot just sets the coordinates and flies through to the determined way-points, and it releases automatically (no human error) based on those calculations. At 5-6 kilometer altitude these bombs have 10-20 meter CEPs, not precision by any standards of course, but still accurate to hit strongholds, and formations. Yeah, rebels succeeded in advancing through into a Christian district Al-Assad I believe, and today their whole offensive collapsed with the Syrian army already controlling 30% of the district again. I see one thing the rebels have is they don't fear death, and that get's them far in their offensives because they can keep the initiative even with heavy casualties.
  15. It's an exaggeration, but that's barely any of the reportings. I'm following Syrian news and I see alot of atrocities that I haven't come across in say CNN or Fox News.
  16. Yes a great tool because there are a few footage pieces of cluster bombs catching whole rebel positions and ripping them into shreds out in the open be it in the city center, or be it out on rough terrain. If rebels would follow the countless Syrian government requests of letting civilians out we wouldn't have half the amount of collateral damage that has happened. Okay I did that, but it still exceeds Russia's claimed civilian kill count. 2003 is a part of the war, I can't exclude that. I know you're busy and no one can tell you what to read or do but have you been following up on the arms and weapons delivered to the Syrian army? You're still assuming Russia isn't using accurate weaponry but litterally just flinging bombs into the city in hopes of hitting something. This isn't the Vietnam war, there's accurate targeting systems even if a bomb is a dumb bomb. The biggest factor of civilian deaths is caused by rebel groups not letting civilians through corridors, and the worse part building their positions right next to them. In the recent attacks in SW Aleppo, rebel factions have attacked a district causing thousands of people to flee in terror. But no reporting from Western journalists because apparently Assad's forces are the only guys doing bad things.
  17. Fair enough about the serial numbers, since Saudi Arabia is in the equation it would indeed be impossible to figure out if the US gave it to them or Saudis, even though both supply rebels with these weapons of course. Really a messed up situation... Carpet bombing is a very effective weapon but of course you're right they lead to heavy collateral damage if civilians are in the equation. Can't argue against that. There's a special toolbar where you can select the casualty caused by various factions, I set it to US coalition and that's where I gave the numbers. I'm not demonizing US forces in Iraq, I'm just saying it happened even when US forces were equipped with superior everything so to speak. Which gets us to my point that there are many cases of rebels operating in civilian positions which is against international law. Which is the point I've been trying to get too. The last time Russia deliberately killed civilians was the Chechen wars, which I condemned (not the war but the way we fought it) to think Russia in this day and age with a different leadership and way better force would deliberately hit innocents' homes where everyone has a camera is wrong to assume. Same goes for all the other people who believe the US purposely killed many innocents in the Iraq and Afghan war systematically. Problem one faced with such high intensity urban warfare is positions are located in civilian or near civilian areas. Ammunition storage, militant medical facilities, barracks, trenches, ect. ect. strongholds are usually in high civilian density. You drop a bomb on it and the poor families which are literally in the designated operation zone are going to be killed precision weaponry or not. Which gets me to my other point that these rebel groups do not allow civilians to get through the humanitarian corridors Russia and the Syrian government opened during the last 3 major ceasefires. Panzer all these that you've mentioned have been supplied: Kornet ATGMs, T-90s, precision artillery equipment. It just isn't cutting it. The Russian airforce doesn't use cluster bomb loadouts only. KABs are used, other precision bombs are used as well, but majority wise SVP-24s are used. It's horrible man truth be it. Not fair to the civilians that the war is brought to them without their say.
  18. A barrel bomb is a bomb, no more different if a MIG-23 dropped the dumb bomb on a militant position and missed it and hit a family's house. Let's start talking about those hell cannons? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-attacks-idUSKBN0JQ17I20141212
  19. There's been more than one case a US provided TOW has killed SAA. http://armamentresearch.com/us-produced-tow-2a-atgws-in-syria/ scroll down to the picture with the US serial number on the missile. You've been in the US army, you guys have precision weaponry, GPS guided artillery shells, GPS guided PGMs, all of the gucci gear, let's take a look at what the Syrian armed forces has. If you were expecting anything miraculous since rebels don't like to let the city through safe corridors, this is what the result is. Of course the insurgents drove car bombs into markets those guys are scum, but there's also reports, and studies which show casualties caused by Coalition forces, we have a website like this showing deaths caused by Coalition forces over one year https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ 7.5K killed in 2003, 3K in 2004. 2K in 2005. Precision weaponry was used but as you can see you still have had collateral damage. Which is fine if not deliberate, but the worse effect it brought into Iraq is totally not fine. First and foremost, all our aircraft that conducts CAS or strike missions in Syria have SVP-24s which are not precision so to say, but are accurate. And there are footage out there with use of PGMs. We use what's in hand, but that beside the fact, the Syrians don't have anything like that. Yes Russian jets have contributed to the collateral damage in Syria, but we can't just ignore the fact that rebels use these innocent people literally as hostages. https://www.rt.com/news/353937-russia-humanitarian-aid-aleppo/ it is well documented as well, this is the major reasons why the SAA has such a high collateral damage rate, yes it's horrible, and I wish it never happened, but we can't just put the whole blame on the government, it's a war and they have to fight it. They can't just give up territory and not fight because the rebels are not letting people leave the military zone. We do have a PGM inventory, which we have used in Syria, and when we don't use precision weaponry we use the SVP-24, it's like the CCIP or CCRP, not like they are just randomly flinging bombs into an area where military targets are. This certainly caused innocents to lose their lives, and it is bad, but we aren't talking about horrible CEPs. Mistakes and militant positioning have caused many losses as well. But it is anything but deliberate. A short sighted look at the conflict will present you with a horrible image of course, the government forces have killed innocents and caused massive collateral damage, however these are anything but deliberate. We must look at this conflict in a long sighted glaze... Assad goes, someone else who's best friends with the West comes. Now what happens to the other Jihadi groups which the West and Gulf allies have supported and armed? They're gonna let everything go back to normal? Absolutely not. It's just going to become a greater slaughter fest than it is. Radical Sunnis chopping off Shia heads, Radical Sunnis who love their group fighting Radical Sunnis that love the West. Mind you that's already what is happening, already a bunch of infighting between groups. The uprising is a lost cause a while ago, and the majority of actual reform fighters which have taken arms against the government is quite low compared to the radicals, and what say you that are now fighting in Syria. You can agree with that I'm sure, but where we disagree on is not even the casualties that government forces and allies have caused, but who's fight is currently right over there. I'd rather stick with the government's side where people aren't held as hostage, or forced to wear Hijabs, or be radicalized. The Government side contains majority Sunni, Shias, Alawites, Jews, Christians basically the country's population, where as we can't see much of the same on the rebel side where people are radicalized. Take my apology for insulting your intelligence, if you want we can PBEM, I'll let you get back at me through there with those M1A2s and Javelins.
  20. No man now that's just messed up, you can't categorize a whole people over what some barbarians do, I have many Muslim friends which I come to respect. The main reason Russia has come to Syria is to protect its ally. Secondly, there are thousands of Chechens and people from Russia which are fighting in Syria. I mean I'm not going to color coat it, obviously Russia hasn't come through with 100% good will in mind, no nation does that. But let's look at the choices, Assad or some nut job Jihadi? And trust me even if Assad were ousted out of power, do you think the dozens of radical groups will let someone not from their ideology freely lead?
  21. You're going to still stick with the rhetoric that evil Russkiis are systematically bombing civilians targets and not engaging military targets? if your countrymen and their allies didn't support these terrorist organizations there wouldn't be a casualty list so high. The collateral damage in Iraq is similar to this in most studies, and reports filed out, and the US is way more capable in terms of precision in everything else than the Syrian military. You do know these guys hold whole districts as hostage right? Once the government sends out papers and leaflets and announces an operation will start, the rebels never let anyone out through the given corridors. With all do respect, you're way smarter than me if you were a commander of an armored unit, you know english isn't my first language so to speak, I should have worded it better. Sorry for offending you man. I'm just a dirty grunt.
  22. Um Panzer I appreciate the info on the death tolls, but I think you're ignoring the massacres brought forth by the rebels themselves, which have killed way more people than ISIS. If you read what I've wrote, I haven't denied Assad's troops doing collateral damage, but I've listed reasons on how these happen. But let me go on link overdrive to help you out real quick http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24486627 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-rebel-shelling-kills-28-civilians-in-aleppo-a7167321.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/19/u-s-backed-moderate-rebels-behead-a-child-near-aleppo.html https://www.rt.com/op-edge/362980-aleppo-hostages-terrorists-paymasters/ We can keep sending links to each other, but the smart one will know that once terrorists use people as hostage, once they are targeted it will result in collateral damage. US forces should know this better than most, in Iraq it happened on a large scale.
  23. Hello Steve, I knew you had more than 2 accounts in the forum! Just kidding anyways I've changed my assert on a position only once and that's about one thing, that there were Russian troops in Ukraine. Now just because I was wrong about something (and not totally off I did believe we provided weapons and advisory) doesn't make me wrong now. But if you want to play your games of "The US and its allies have never done any regime toppling of sorts, and we aren't actively arming groups which have committed horrible war crimes, and are way worse than the regime" than okay, I'll play that game too. Seriously, I'd love for the people of Syria to have groups like Jaish Al Fateh take control, would be great for human rights!
  24. Or you won't provide a viable argument against my evidence which clearly shows terrorists funded and supported by US and its allies, killing innocents, and destroying Syria as a whole. Okay let's say Russia did bad things in Ukraine, look at the destruction in Donbas and compare it to the destruction in Syria. Please sanction your own country, before sanctioning mine.
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