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It's only a first batch of 100. This is not the end total . They are going to equip a brigade , learn how to use the new toy and how to integrate it ( write the tactical and operational employment manual) then make a bigger order. Though I would not expect the grand total to exceed 600-700. They can probably build 150-200 a year . These numbers are only for the T-14 MBT version. The 2300 number probably also included the infantry version T-15 (both the IFV and APC versions , one has autocannon and kornets, the other has 12.7mm only) and the other versions for engineering vehicules, medical, anti-tank missiles vehicule , etc.. This is the grand total for the whole family of vehicles.

I want the boomerang . Big improvement and way more survivable. Can probably withstand the 40mm heat grenades of US infantry at least.

Thanks. So basically its the T-90AM in the game. Good guess Battlefront !

Looking at the video, when they install back the turret it seems to have a shiny and unpainted new gun compared to the T-90A we briefly see untouched at 0:08. So good chance its the new 2A82 that has way more muzzle velocity and can fire the greatly improved ammo Vacuum-1-2. Question is, at 900mm long , can they fit the needed autoloader in that turret ? Probably not. But still, the increased muzzle velocity if the gun could increase the penetration ability of the svinets-2 round by a fair margin.

This interesting video is showing T-90As being modernized to T-90M standards. So it has started. I Do not know if its the version Battlefront introduced in the game or the better one announced in the media which sports the new gun from the Armata and can fire the new Grifel round which is claimed to penetrate 900-1000mm at 2000 meters. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=680228372164921&id=428343390686755

Kornet crews are trained to aim over a Target and AT the last minute to move the beam on the Target .. so the Target is not tipped off by the laser. Something we dont see in CMBS . This and tank crews not lasing targets at under 1500 meters since its point and shoot with 100% probability at that range .

Its the B3M ... With the panoramic thermal for the commander and full Relikt coverage . They are supposed to be for the new organic tank compagnies of VDV. So you should see T-72B3-M with commander's panoramic thermal sight and full Relikt ERA ( including the turret) in a future VDV module for CMBS unless Battlefront believes otherwise. The ones you saw at the parade represent the new standard for all current and future t-72b3 modifications which are still ongoing. Relikt on the sides and old K-5 on the front of the turret. They are stand-ins until the units get reequipped with Armatas starting in 2020. The VDV will keep their T-72B3-Ms or B4s. That's why I believe the VDV requested the more capable upgrade.

Those are not T-72B3M. They are T-72B3 MOD 2016. The ones with the panoramic thermal sight for the commander are B3Ms or B4s. They are to be deployed but only 150 of them for now.

Maybe they Will be fielded in small numbers and you are right. CMBS is not wwii and historical accuracy and OOB realism is less important. Its what if. I would like these versions available in a family extension pack with educated guesses as to capabilities. Much like the Abrams has LWR , ERA and Trophy in the game. I want to explore what added capabilities it would bring the Russians. I dont care much about the real world. On a tactical level they would Make a difference in some part of the Battlefield which is the focus of CMBS.

Good source but some errors . The T-72b3-M or B4's panoramic independent sight for the commander does have its own thermal sight comparable in performance to the SOSNA-U. The panoramic sight's designation is PK-PAN and you can Google it.

Russia and Belarus are military allies and have a mutual defense pact. Thus Russia has troops and airbases in Belarus since many years.

Using infantry to screen tanks Will prevent huge losses to tanks near built up areas (grosnyy style) but you Will still lose some tanks. Losing 10-15 tanks out of a hundred is okay . This is what's happening to the Turks. Also There is not Much you can do against well hidden infiltrated ATGM teams sniping from 3-4km. You Will lose tanks good Tactics or not. Thats where tech comes in It can prevent normally unavoidable losses some of the Times but it wont save you from bad Tactics or deployment.APS would have saved those tanks and revealed the launcher so it can be destroyed by Return fire. People want no losses . Thats just not possible against a well-equipped and semi to fully competent enemy.

that could have been a hard or firepower kill. Lower and it would have been pretty much a gun mount hit and the Kornet has a decent chance against that weak point.

You can simulate combat in a Chemical or nuclear environment by making Troops unfit or weakened and making them all Green. That should Do it.

Yes to Carl Gustav, yes to Avenger Stingers vehicules and also the 30 mm cannon striker.

A T-90M as described here would be a very serious threat to an Abrams in the GAME and in a tactical setting. Gee, well employed the actual russian tanks are useful. You guys seem to think i'm talking on strategic level here. That new gun with the new ammo would ensure frontal kills against the Abrams in the game under (let be conservative here) 1500 meters and the Malackit ERA would help the tank survive the first hit more often than relikt. I dont care about Operational numbers or what would happen on a strategic level. I care about the tactical level which is the focus of this game. I'm well aware you guys are so entrenched in your superiority complex that there is no use in arguing what would actually happen in a shooting war. Gee, looks like nobody reads what I write. Was There a NATO Ground presence on the western border 10 years ago ? No. So no serious impetus to upgrade or introduce new tanks. Things have changed . NATO is now identified as a threat in their doctrine. It wasnt even 2 years ago. So they will upgrade. You actually expect them to do nothing and roll over ? They wont invade the baltics unless NATO invades Kaliningrad first and that would only be to relieve the enclave. NATO wont invade Kaliningrad so its a moot point. Yes, some people in Russia actually fear that scenario. My point being that despite a lot of hot air in the last 20 years concerning upgrades and new equipment now the geopolitical situation is completely different and they cannot sit and do nothing like before. Those tanks have a really good chance of seeing service. I'm not convinced the Armata Will be available in interesting numbers in 5-10 years. Unless you guys just want some russian targets to blow up in single player games so you can reinforce your feeling of national superiority. In that case, boring.

The Russian MOD is often divided over what to do and always has been. In fact, it is not monolitic in his thinking and there is power struggles on the inside about what to do. Even Putin is not the all powerful supervillain you think he is. He must deal with bureaucratic opposition, friction and yes, corruption. So plans change, are being modified to placate a certain faction, compromises are made. It's not : you do as I say or else... He may wish it so, but there were many instances where he was blocked and frustrated on the inside for good reasons or less noble ones (like corruption). The track record of the US department of defense is better because we live here and speak and read the same language. We read on what happens inside Russia through western media and Russian english news agencies. I've read some stuff in russian (translated, a bitch to read believe me..) and the picture you get is way different. About finding a near peer threat for the US: Yes.. I admit it. Althought I play the russkies and trounce the US regularly with the actual capabilities present in the game for the russian army. It will Make for a more challenging and fun game for the American player in single player mode (ask Battlefront, its the preferred mode for the majority of players ). But i'm not pulling that tank out of my ass. There is enough credible evidence to say that the tank will become a reality. Especially considering the "about face" that the Russians are making now that NATO troops are stationed on a permanent basis on their western border (I'm not going to discuss how this is their fault or not). They need top notch equipement in the short term and Armata is a long way off. There wasnt this need before. And they must and will adapt to the PERCEIVED threat. They already are reacting by creating new formations for the western districts.The T-90M thus stand a good chance of existing more or less as described (I dont think they will install Afghanit APS, too expensive, I'm betting they will put the money on the new gun and ammo.) Also, The T-90MS was never going to be accepted in Russian service. IT was for export. The MOD was waiting for the technologies that were going to come out of the Armata program to upgrade and now with the geopolitical situation it is even more urgent and they were right to Wait. They can now upgrade the T-90A to something that can kill a western tank frontally reliably and have an acceptable chance of surviving a first hit.

Because they changed their minds.. Relations with the west deteriorated since and now the T-72B3, which was planned in the late 2000s and was considered adequate at the time to fight near abroad enemies is now considered inadequate in the context of the possibility of a shooting war with NATO assets now stationed on Russia's western borders (whatever their intentions... militaries dont deal with intentions but with capabilities) . Thus the additional modernization to a much higher standard because the threat has changed. The PERCEIVED threat has changed, there is now more impetus to upgrade more thoroughly and the Armata is still à long way off. They need fairly capable tanks and they need them now, not in ten years .The same reasoning goes for the T-90M.

Nope i know the difference.. demo charges / real engineers..

as for the Sputnik report about the T-90M... it quotes a military expert with close ties to the MOD Alexei Leonkov who was interviewed for Zvezda TV, which is the military channel run by the Russian ministry of defense.

T-72B3M has relikt, new engine, fully modern FCS and panoramic sight for the commander no ? They already received around 25-50 in service. The first upgrade was badly received and they are trying to correct. Here's the tank and confirmation that 150 are going to be upgraded http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_army_tank_heavy_armoured_vehicles_u/t-72b3m_t-72b4_main_battle_tank_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video_12003163.html

At least they added the panoramic sight for the commander with thermals on the M version LOL less disastrous. They have a few in service . The malachit ERA and the new gun are a must for that tank. Afghanit less so. It will probably be dropped to reduce cost. The Armata program is delayed. So they need toi upgrade existing tanks for the interim.

No new gun ? No Malackit ERA ? No afghanit ? Did you read something on russian or are you just deducting from the picture ? Maybe the tank shown in the picture is a stripped version ?

They wont lie about new equipment and procurement plans. Capabilities sure. The russians announced it on the MOD site but in russian. Do you believe the department of defense in the US when they announce new stuff and procurement plans ? Same thing here. As for sabot .. they did not say which kind. Read the article (Us source, no propaganda *wink wink*) .Proven would mean combat. They wont model anything for the game if everything needs to be "proven". Even if its only effective 30% of the time, it can still have an effect on survivability. Relikt is moderately effective against the M829A4 in the game. Its still modeled with no proofs, albeit conservatively.