Grondoval

It would be very benificial for the game to ease the workload of the player and get away with some of the more repetetive and tedious tasks. It think it would even spark more interest in the game because as it stands right now, only but a few of my friends would be interested (for example) to draw the same waypoints over and over to make a small battlegroup move in convoy formation along a road.

Hello CM-Players, Its nice to hear that BF will implement more control over the duration of the "target briefly" command. It will serve the gameplay well. Now, to make this new feature really shine it would be perfect to implement the following: The option to stack up multiple "target briefly" orders for different targets without giving a new move waypoint for every target. This would definately enhance your tactical toolbox by a great margin. Many poeple asked about an order to area-fire a larger area. To be able to stack up "target briefly" would solve this problem.

On the 400m test-range the LeIG 18 fired at an angle of around 30-40°. Difference was that the shell hit the groin rather than the chest/head before exploding behind the target. Im not nagging that gun crews should be less accurate against an area target. Its the thing that gun crews target one particular soldier and hit him dead on with the shell. Example: http://youtu.be/-G3uPQ82U2U

Pre-Test with LeIG 18 -400m -5 Shells for each gun - US Infantry Squads LeIG shoots in a parabola. That means the gun could hit the ground under the Infantry-squad better. In theory (so far). Fact again: its either a total miss (way above or way too short) or a direct hit on a person. Sure after the shell penetrated the persons body it will explode and eventually kill or injure someone else. But even high trajectory guns like the IG WILL target, hit and kill sole individuals through body hit before causing casualties through blast and shrapnel. It is very obvious when someone is tending to a wounded. The IG hit the man in his back with dead accuracy. Body-Misses (hit the space between the Infantrymen but distance right) were rare.

Okay there is something wrong. I did some pre-tests in the Editor (Bocage Lanes; you know it): - Pak38 - 400m - American Rifle-Squad Target - Lanes are perfectly flat - Gun crews mixed HE and AP for some reason Impressions: http://youtu.be/9xZOx2m8UTg Around 15 shells where fired (I know, not enough to proof anything, but its a preview; some more statistically backed tests incoming) 90% of the casualtys inflicted are not because of shrapnel or blast but because of the shell hit the body directly. You may say: okay its flat, how could a prone target be hit otherwise. I say: The guns are shooting with pinpoint accuracy at 400m, and aiming their HE-shells center mass of the target soldiers. Misses in terms of the body beeing missed (like it should be) where rare. They were more rare than complete misses.

Im fine with that IF the gun-crew intends to kill the single guy by blast, fragmentation, debris or whatever. But shooting the gun so precise that the HE-shell hits him DIRECTLY in the chest/head/body is not very believable. As said i will be doing some tests regarding anti tank guns aiming at the body of single infantrymen rather than the ground they are standing on. IMHO gunners aimed at the body of individuals up to a caliber of around 20mm. With 37mm or 50mm HE i would target the immidiate surrounding to bring blast and shrapnel to bear. As it stands now it seems that large caliber tank guns still aiming at center mass of individual soldiers regardless what caliber it is.

Hello. Thanks for your feedback! In the videos ive posted there was no target behind the guy who was shot (because it slopes there). The Gun deliberately aimed at a specific person in the squad and shot him with pinpoint accuracy. One case (unfortunatly no video) one BAR-gunner who was ahead of the squad spotted german infantry, stands up, firing and got directly hit by the PAK38 within 5 seconds. The tank case is not a whole lot different from this. As said tanks are using shells WAY too generously and aiming them at single persons (often killing them through body hit rather than blast or shrapnel)

Another example from the same mission (Bois de Baughin): http://youtu.be/2-O2S7J-sg0 As soon as im more firm with the editor im doing a more professional test series.

Okay, a THIRD time now in Bois de Baughin. And this one is the most obvious ive ever seen. Fraps video incoming! Guy is lying on the ground. Shell from Pak38 grazing the grass 1m above ground, sniping the prone guy in the head and flying off map without ever touching the ground. From 400m! EDIT: http://youtu.be/h0QIzYubVSg

Just happened again in Bois de Baughin. Same PAK38. This time the target was running... I would understand if the PAK would fire the HE-shell in the ground in front of the target. But now it just kills the man, flys through him and explodes somewhere behind him in the wild blue yonder...

I played a mission a couple of weeks ago. Jagdpanthers vs Churchills, cant remember the name though. In this mission it happened at least 5 times that my Jagdpanther shot (one-hit in the body) some dismounted english crewmen with AP-Shells at over 150m even though I ordered to attack light with the ball-mount MG34. In total something like this happened to me at least 10 times...

Hello CM-Forums, CM-Player since CMBB, first forum post ever ... nice .. Its time to write about the one single thing I find a little bit strange when playing CMBN: Infantry getting sniped (hit in the chest) by shells from anti tank guns or tanks. It just happens so often (happened to me just now in Bois de Baughin; 400m; one guy just popps out of the grass; headshot by pak38) to ask the question: how common where direct body hits by large caliber shells and how often was it an intended (!) hit. I know AP-shells could be very precise but trying to shoot a person with it... I dont know... it feels like anti tank guns are beeing abused as long range snipers.. Greetings Grondoval