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Thanks IanL-Yeah it's a toughy -all I found was what I had downloaded here from a Commando Supremo Forum. I tried Board Game sites, Model sites, military.... I'm sure there is info. Just not posted online... or we haven't found it yet. Thanks-CMFDR-We have that-symbols from the manual you provided. Because they posted the manual we have in their forum from circa 1935. And many Thanks Amidali-What you posetd is a big help. But you know who else isn't listed AMMO BEARERS. There in the game-but not in the manual-unless the Italian Army didn't have dedicated Ammo Bearers. And your right-no self-propelled guns or Tank Destroyers. Right now we are trying to fit a 1943 Army into a 1935 manual. But I will have something for you to see. Not given up yet.

CMFDR PM'd you.

Well of course they spotted your Counterfeit MP's. They are using a German Feldgrau colored Icon. "Did you see that!" Well-yes- they did. Little mod of an icon mod. No Feldgrau icons for Otto's troops. Haven't released it since the base mod I don't remember who created it. Anyone? Anyone? nik mond are you going to release the MP skin.? Looks really nice. "I like Amerikan cigarettes."

Okay I did one Geometric Icon-just for test-glad I did since was able to work with layers with some competence. There may be an issue with color. The side by side images shows the 2 colors differences when flashing. There is a difference albeit a subtle difference. We'll address that later. For now I'll work on the HAND-DRAWN ICONS and then after that do the GEOMETRIC ICONS. The icon in the screenshot is for the RECON unit. On the right below is the translucent HAND-DRAWN ICONS (for MORTARS). This GEOMETRIC icon was easy-a mod of Bills (Note to self-ask Bill if I can use his modded icons for Italian forces) Some may not be so easy to mod-some interpretation like for the TANKETTES-since the Germans and the US didn't have TANKETTES but only LIGHT TANKS. But there is a dedicated ICON for that.

Hey thanks for the clarification.

Yes those icons aren't used yet-but who knows with the next module. We know BATTLEFRONT is working on that now. I'll have an Italian 'icon' Dealership scenario worked up to see what icons are missing. I am hoping to have a BETA to test out by May 3rd-since I'll be gone from home about a week with only access with an iPad.

Depends how the first one turns out-but yes I can do that. Right now if I can get the right translation mated up with an icon we are good to go. So - Yes if I can get the translucent ones done that I am working on now. I can get the geometric ones done to-will take a little more work since you don't want a hand drawn quality. I'm pretty new with Greenfish Icon Editor Pro -but every time I use it I have learned something. Lets say we are the STEAM Early Access stage rather then BETA HAHAHAHAHA. The tank icons may look rough exploded (i.e. 'hand drawn' like the actual symbols)-but in game they are smooth-but I want the lines a little fatter on the tanks. Accomplished a lot in 24 hrs. First couple are experiments-once it's down then it's just cookie cutting or making sausages. Fog of War and Defensive Icons you can't change since Germans and Italians share those icons. In your chart only INFANTRY and SUPPORT and VEHICLES need to be changed in ANY ICON set. Got the colors I want.

GREAT! Best to download the manual in CMFDR first post to compare the CM OFFICIAL Icon name(listed below) to what is in the manual. If you can compare the names to the manual that would be great. There are a lot of shared icons with Germans and Italians. What is listed below under the double line are the icon names that units have their own specific icon. Unlike Headquarters, Fog-of-War, Sniper or FORTRESS icons which both Germans and Italians units share and can't be modded for a specific country. ____________________________________ _____________________________________ light_truck_heavy_weapon light_truck_antitank light_machinegun infantry_gun machinegun light_machinegun self propelled gun red tank destroyer truck ammo_bearer antitank armored_car anti tankgun engineer flak

Don't feel bad-I did the same thing. (NOTE to self read the README's ). What I like about your mods Juju is you can mod and tweak it. It's almost a mini game in itself. Lot of work is evident and Old World craftsmanship.

I looked for flamethrower-I don't recall one in the game now. But the next module should have one-so it's best to look to include it. In the mean time I did the RECON change you suggested. Inserted in the screenshots are pictures of the actual icons-since. As I have said FRAPs doesn't work well 'screenshotting' translucent. If I do say so myself-the tanks looks pretty darn close to the hand drawn ones in the manual you uploaded.

Thanks Juju!!! This release deserves a VICTORY PARADE. American Army steals the show at 3:42

Reading some articles this week-these items well could be from a Russian contract fighter. I understand the Russians may be going that route since they they have to pay soldiers a lot to serve there anyway and Russian Army casualties are a sensitive subject at home.

Thanks! Really very pre-BETA right now. Will fix per your suggestion. I tried the GOOGLE translator-my own Italian is restricted to buying a train ticket or a meal-Good Morning-Goodbye-Taxi!. So I will go with what you have for recon. The symbol I had was pezzo per fanteria which translates to 'piece/ portion of infantry'. The Tankette and Mortar icons were easy to find and came out great. I'll try to whip a desktop shot on the icons themselves once its complete-hopefully in a week. FRAPS doesn't handle translucent graphics very well-even on pause. Depending how it turns it I will release it as a mod. But the translucent icons won't be red but egg shell blue like the German Icons.

This was good fun. I got as close as I could with these 3 icons for INFANTRY, RECON ('portion of infantry' in Italian in the manual-nothing that freely translates to RECON) and MORTAR (Brixia in screen shot) I'm using a Blue Icon set for the Axis from someone-but modified the Italians as red. HQ's is a shared icon for Germans and Italians so it will always be blue-looks white in the screenshot but really is an eggshell blue. Using Greenfish Icon Editor Pro to make the translucent icons-one looks faded in the screen shot-but really is quite vibrant and distinct. (FRAPS really muddys out the icon.) Select the icons and it's yellow background per the original icon set.

Oh MAN! A MILLION thanks -I was looking for reference just like that this week! All I could find was modern NATO and WWII American and German symbols. Downloaded and archived!

Okay-Thanks, Mikey D. As an aside I remember in the original Panzer Elite they had one graphic (where you chose your unit makeup) that showed an M-10 TD with what looked like a huge outdoor folding umbrella for shelter over the turret.

Haven't seen pictures on tanks except mounted-were they brought in by support units before battle?

Very IMPRESSED!

Thanks WW2steel.

Your snow effect looks good. I can understand your trepidation Umlaut on modding. Incidentally I have your mods and in other CM games. But yeah modding and playing you got to strike a balance. Modding can be a monster on your back. Your probably like me-you like to explore the files and see what you can do-but at the same time just PLAY and ENJOY the game. I tried my own experiments with a snow effect on vehicles. It's tough-snow isn't easy. Is there a specific brush or a combination of brushes... don't know. ****************************** String from 2012 when I was exploring flavor objects into CM FI. Puzzle Palace back then. Simple now. Modding is like being a druggie. FWIW

Roll up your sleeves and get to work. https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Normal_Map_Creation_in_Photoshop_or_Paint_Shop_Pro Overview http://www.wikihow.com/Category:Paint-Shop-Pro Main item and videos http://www.wikihow.com/Import-Brushes-to-Paint-Shop-Pro http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+use+brushes+in+paintshop&FORM=HDRSC3

I'm with Vladimir on this-doesn't look like FO gear. In fact it looks pretty sparse compared to what some Somali took off a dead French operator in a rescue attempt that went bad about 2 year ago. Or maybe we haven't been shown all that was recovered. Plus the Russians said the FO called in strikes on his position-so everything here doesn't look in bad condition. FWIW.

Enjoy the string. I've been there.

German Gear, US Gear, goaway surrender, Veins explosions, Veins small arms muzzle flash, Veins tank muzzle flash are what I am using from Normandy

Looks great Thanks for the work! (note translucent tree mod in background in one shot).