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  1. This escalation logic is flawed. People of a country are not a one whole. "Collective fault" is previous century stuff. Yes, bombing of Dresden was a mistake, like relocation of Germans from Konigsberg. My point was not "whataboutism", like "it's ok to hit civilians in Vinnitsya because civilians were hit in Donetsk", please. It was about sorrowful inequality of life value because of media coverage, that is it. I didn't write that Russia wasn't fighting, I did downscale invading force. I had impression that RA moved in only 2 BTGs (excluding special forces and volunteers) in August 2014, that was wrong. Language barrier distorts sense, I guess. Everyone thought that only Russian army was fighting, I wrote about 2 BTGs, that looked like "denial". But DPR and LPR forces were and are important, as this war showed, they fought sometimes better than RA. Ignoring them as a fighting force was wrong.
  2. Donetsk city is shelled by 150mm artillery. It's hard to avoid killing civilians using this type of weapons. Yes, Ukrainians are desperate, but still they should use more precise weapons or avoid shelling targets in densely populated urban areas. (Like Russian army must.) Some people will die in any case because of this war that was started by Putin, but why not to minimise this number using Tochkas, HIMARS instead of "dumm" 150mm arty? And please don't read this like any sort of advocating of this strike in Vinnitsya, using of cruise missiles is risky because of AA defence that shoots them above the city and also must be avoided in urban areas. Sure, who can argue this.
  3. Yeah, but you don't notice deaths from this side of a front line. Not because you don't care, but because this deaths are not shown to you. Donetsk is shelled by weeks, dozens of civilians are killed. But nobody posted the photos and this "didn't happen". No offence, Russian media also don't show civilian deaths in Ukraine cities.
  4. Children are dying since 2014. I saw a lot of photos. It's awful to realise that people see only things that media show to them. Lives have different values. If media show this particular death - people sorrow. Media don't say about 100 another deaths - people don't care. Child in Vinnitsya is a human being, child in Donetsk is like Palestinian child, acceptable "collateral damage".
  5. "Good manners" in Internet - to post links always. This is fiction story. Vladlen Tatarsky is writer, he published several books. "Based on true events" (he was there), but still fiction.
  6. Why do you always call me "Misha", it isn't my first name. (Because of M in DMS? No) I am ok when you say it in Russian (sort on nickname, ok), but in English it sounds bad. It's a little impolite to bring personal discussions to forum where no one cares about us, isn't it? What do you expect, that if you find some words and prove that Russia is "bad", Russians are ok with disintegration and partition? Like: "It's our fault? ok then, partition us free, kill us, take away our resources." I don't think so. And why that Putin is our fault? Yeltsin was approved by U.S. Congress. Anti-Yeltsin rebellion in 1993 was crushed with support of U.S. embassy. Elections of 1996 were openly frauded. I don't think that Yeltsin's appointee Putin wasn't approved by U.S. embassy in 1999. Bush and Clinton liked him, he was Russian Zelensky who helped to fight terror. Putin was usual pro-western dictator, like Mubarak in Egypt. West tried to shift him in 2011, he was hurt and gone wild. Deal with him. I have no relation to this imperialistic contention, but if someone come to my home to "de-rushificate" me, to punish for some "collective fault" - ok, I will have to support this dictator. (Not just me, but "average Russian") Quite simple logic, I don't understand what's wrong with it. I think that here are too much discussions about Russia, so in short: are you serious? South Russia is concentrated in few big cities, like rest of the country. That big cities are populated by people with roots from all over the country. Ukrainians use to say that Russians are "mudblood", "race mix". Well, ok. People try to hide their village roots, avoiding local dialects. You buy internet memes and jokes as true stories? Sounds like "American hillbillies are preparing to secession, because they are too different to New York city". You missed the point or my English is too bad. Anyway, ok. Please let's stop this wall of text. Here are too much of us.
  7. "Sovietisation" doesn't equal to "Russification", it was opposite thing. Communists started politics of "rootification" ("коренизация", I don't know how to translate this), giving ethnic minorities more places in councils, giving them leader's positions. Russian population was forced to learn local languages. Russian nationalists curse communists for that, you know that Putin says that Lenin created Ukraine. Don't underestimate Soviet internationalism, it helped to neutralise hatred between ethnic groups. Baltic states, Ukraine were republics in union. They exited the union. Poland was not a part of union, Poland just changed block. Not good examples. Nuclear weapons are not a guarantee. There are ways. Proxy wars, bribing elites, regime change. And in case of "traditional" war, when to nuke? When border is crossed? When Smolensk is lost? When U.S. armored divisions are 50 km far from Moscow? If they are at 51 km, may be there is a chance to negotiate? Are you sure that NATO won't probe this? Well, if I am wrong and nuclear weapons make 3-rd world war impossible - ok then. I would disagree, but ok, I don't think that this is worth arguing.
  8. Russian Federation in not an empire, it is populated by one political nation with common (Soviet based) culture, economics, language. Eastern parts are weakly populated, Russia just looks on the map like very big. Partition of Russia would have one main purpose, to get oil and gas from Siberia without paying fair market price to Russian business. I doubt that life of average Russian would become better without taxes, paid by Gazprom, Lukoil and others. Even pro-western upper middle class in Moscow would suffer, if Moscow stops being government and trading centre. I strongly dislike concept of one, single, united nation without classes. But in this particular case all Russian people, all classes would stick together. Their interests would be common, for businessmen and working class. West should not turn this imperialistic war (with limited support) in national-liberation war for Russian people. Yes, there are some regional elites (most notable - in Yekaterinburg) with separatist intentions. They would be ok with leaving taxes in their region, even if they have to sell for lower prices. But, unfortunately for them, they are too close to People Republic of China and I doubt, that any gun would be fired in direction of PLA, if they come to help.
  9. It's ironic that I read this topic to find another source of information and avoid official propaganda, but I find here confirmation of official propaganda scary tales about NATO leaders who plan to destroy and disintegrate Russia. (Well, you are not NATO leaders - but if public is ok with that, why leaders would not) And you ask: why Russians are stuck around that disgusting government. Because they (we) are scared of you, Putin is bad, but if he looses - here come people like Haiduk, who "will show Sudetes" and your collaborators like Grig, who will help disintegrating Russia. No way out. Ok, then we are cornered rats.
  10. Well, I am glad to read that you don't support "collective punishing" and think that any punishment should be set by trial. Just wanted to know that. I think that Haiduk is also interested in this question, "probing" you, is it ok to write such things or not. How far Western sympathies go. Assumptions about my person are interesting, but I don't want to flood this topic, you know where PM button is. And no, I probably won't get any consequences personally to me, sitting in armchair, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care.
  11. "Collective guilt" and trial? 100 thousands of trials, 200 thousands? Well, ok.
  12. No, I didn't mean Russian citizens. But Haiduk already answered, I see. Sudetes, Volhynia. Very progressive.
  13. It's amazing that you openly admit that plans. And that western public "buy" it. "Pushing out of that Russian replacers"!
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