slysniper

Wrong, born a true American, just cannot spell worth a _hit. I need spell check for everything I do, just do not take the time when I enter here, no spell check unless I take it to another source. So you want to nail me back, do you.

Revised present standings are Miles 8 points Bert / Fiaros 6 points U8led 5 points Gort 4 points Walker / Ozi /Dinga 44/Melb_will 3 points Warhammer 2 points Major Tum / Mikado 1 point [ October 20, 2005, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: slysniper ]

Final Updated scores from round one Match #1 The last road out Americans vs Germans Bye Ozi Digger vs Gavlong Bye Mikado vs Zweihorn (submitted but no score could be awarded) 80/20 K.A. Miles vs melb_will 69/31 Gort vs U8led 69/31 Walker vs BertBlitzkrieg (modified score 2% for Bert, challenged game award of a flag – Bert can show it in a after action report) 68/23 Warhammer vs Major Tum 61/39 Dinga44 vs fiaros Americans K.A. Miles 3 points Gort 2 points Walker 2 points Warhammer 1 point Germans Fiaros 3 points U8led 2 points BertBlitzkrieg 2 points Major Tum 1 point Bye Ozi Digger/Mikado 1 point Match #2 The bloody stream Germans vs British 84/16 K.A. Miles vs fiaros 78/6 Ozi Digger vs Zweihorn 70/30 Walker vs Major Tum 69/31 Mikado vs melb_will 50/50 Warhammer vs U8led 30/50 Dinga44 vs BertBlitzkrieg bye Gort vs Gavlong Germans K.A. Miles 3 points ozi 2 points walker 1 point British BertBlitzkrieg 3 points +1 bonus (weak side victory) U8led 2 points melb_will 1 point Bye Gort 1 point Match #3 What were we thinking Germans vs Americans 81/19 Dinga44 vs Major Tum 76/24 K.A. Miles vs BertBlitzkrieg 71/29 Gort vs Zweihorn 65/35 Walker vs U8led 63/37 Ozi Digger vs melb_will 52/44 Mikado vs fiaros bye Warhammer vs Gavlong Germans Dinga44 3 points K.A. Miles 2 points Gort 1 point Americans Fiaros 3 point Melb_will 2 points U8led 1 points Bye Warhammer 1 point [ October 20, 2005, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: slysniper ]

If any of you have heard from Mikado, let me know so that I know that we have someone in contact with him. If we hear nothing by Wed., I want the three that have matches with him let me know which option you want, Bye/a picked up second(Earl Gray has offered)/or myself-not the smart choice of the three.

Thats correct. As far as your file issue, you just gave away info to your opponants as to what intellegence they are up against

Match #6 has been sent, you are all set to go, please let me know if you have problems, will try to work them out before this next week-end. Thanks

Will know in a few days if we need you, the fellows have a week to get their matches running smooth.

For round two of "out of the dust tourney", I might be looking for someone that would like to jump in and replace a existing player, it will be 3 scenarios PBEM, about 30 turns long, and need to stay at a pace to complete them by the end of November. If interested, place a responce here

I have tried to get a response from him for the scores from the last round and have heard nothing. Keep me informed, I have a feeling he might dump on us and be another to receive my cursings.If so, if no one else drops out to make it even numbers I will play you if you do not want a bye, or let me see if I can get a standbye to jump in for round two, I will post for one right now

I have to do what small part I can for the dutch, since half my blood in my vains come from dutchmen. The other half is English. [ October 16, 2005, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: slysniper ]

scenario six is my holland one, I might not get that out until Monday, I will try for sooner but not likely.

Mikado michel.detienne@skynet.be Here you go Major Tum, I did send a list out with all the addresses when I sent out the first matches, Just a reminder if any of you have forgotten

Since the first round was 6 weeks, I am planing on the second round being 6 weeks also. So will end at the end of November As far as why I am doing it, I am still trying to figure that one out also. When I was younger, I tried my hand at designing games, found it to be more challenging than I thought. but also enjoyed the challenge. Now that I am older and do not dream of that anymore, this is about the only game where I can design something and get a little enjoyment out of it. So why not run a tourney with my own rule system and get the challenge and fun from having to hear the good and bad comments from you Guys. Plus I get more feed back here than if I posted these at the Proving Grounds or someplace like that. You would see 400 downloads and only 2 or 3 comments, and they normally were not be consistant with each other. So I hope to get more feed back from you guys. I have to add that these are just my favorite games also. Replaced ASL for me.

Matches #4 & #5 have been sent out, I will not get to Match #6 likely very soon, but rest easy, I will get it out when I get a chance. These matches have been sent to the German side to start

Whoever said "losing isnt fun". Since for some reason all 3 scenarios results were one-sided, I like a format that does not pentalize you for which side you had a chance to play. I also do not think playing both sides in the same game is fair approach either. At least in this format, everyone is playing Blind, and the skills are based on playing a map with no previous knowledge of enemy Data. If you notice, we have a good mix in rankings, did not matter which side players were given, both sides have about the same results.

see updated scores above present standings are Miles 8 points Bert / U8led 6 points Fiaros / Gort / Melb_will 4 points Walker / Ozi /Dinga 44 3 points Warhammer 2 points Major Tum / Mikado / Zweihorn 1 point

I think the system did just what it should have, if He preforms better than the other players playing the Brits he deserved the points, even though in this match that meant playing safe. I think he was lucky because I still cannot believe that no one won strongly with the Brits. During play test the Germans never won a match. The general tactic was to send a scout unit or two at one of the bridges with the complete force supporting one bridge to assault. Armor somewhat hidden but located to bring all five tanks to bear on the one crossing. Normally able to locate a tank or gun once the infantry started supporting the lead scouts, at which point if it was armor, arty would dump smoke, british armor would roll into place. As smoke clears hopefully 4 or 5 tanks firing on the one or two locations known of the enemy. The guns once revealed never lasted, arty or morters could pin them down and armor then would roll into place and finish them off. Of coarse the Germans would take out tanks with the first shot surprise because of hidden locations, I saw matches where two or three brit tanks are lost this way. But even in these matches the outcome was brit favor. Normally the 2 tanks and 2 Guns destroyed and the brits losing 3 or 4 tanks. Once the armor is gone, even if the Brits have only 1 or 2 tanks, the rest is how to mop up. The german never has all his units on one crossing, he must split his force and he does not have locations that can cover both approaches well. Thus the reason that massing on one approach does work and should work if played well normally. As to the one point for the bye, If there is 12 players, 2 receiving 3 points for the best player of the scenario. 2 receiving 2 points, and 2 receiving one. How is 1 point for a bye not fair, you gained more than 50% of the players that receive nothing. You are even with 66% of the field and have lost ground to only 4 players or 33% of the field. And this is adcheived by not having to play. That seems more than fair to me, but when things are not going the way you want, it must be the system (try again). Thanks for the imput but make more of a case if you are going to complain.

Next round matches will be as posted. I did not want anyone to play the same person twice, let me know if I have missed that. Match #4 Germans vs Americans Ozi Digger vs Major Tum melb_will vs Bertblitzkrieg U8led vs fiaros Gort vs Dinga44 Walker vs K.A. Miles Warhammer vs Mikado Match #5 Norrey Germans vs Canadians BertBlitzkrieg vs Gort Fiaros vs melb_will K.A. Miles vs U8led Dinga44 vs Warhammer Ozi Digger vs Walker Major Tum vs Mikado Match #6 Ghost among the fog Germans vs Americans Melb_will vs Major Tum K.A. Miles vs Ozi Digger Bertblitzkrieg vs Warhammer U8led vs Dinga44 Mikado vs Walker Fiaros vs Gort [ October 12, 2005, 04:51 AM: Message edited by: slysniper ]

I will likely start sending out the next round, come thursday evening, hopefully get you all going by this weekend. Since four weeks seem to be six weeks for many of you. The new dead line for round two will be the end of Nov. 6 weeks to match round one.

Mikado, I am giving you one more day to get the match turned in between you and zweihorn. If I do not see it, I will assign the points out to the other matches as they are now and just treat it as a no score for you.

You might get a point in the "Last road out", Need Mikado to send the match in, before I can assign points. You are not in good shape, Highest score of our leader will be 8 points. Keep in mind that you can score 3 points each match, Bonuses for winning with the weak side and in this round, also bonuses for winning a better rated player if you can do it above the matches adverage.

Sorry Ozi, that victory was yours, thus corrected. revised scores posted

see updates on score up above

Warhammer, I thoght you were going to get easy points because you managed to blow both bridges, But with some of these matches, them bridges were the roadway to hell for some of these battles.

Match #2 The bloody stream Germans vs British 84/16 K.A. Miles vs fiaros 78/6 Ozi Digger vs Zweihorn 70/30 Walker vs Major Tum 69/31 Mikado vs melb_will 50/50 Warhammer vs U8led 30/50 Dinga44 vs BertBlitzkrieg bye Gort vs Gavlong Germans K.A. Miles 3 points ozi 2 points walker 1 point British BertBlitzkrieg 3 points +1 bonus (weak side victory) U8led 2 points melb_will 1 point Bye Gort 1 point Match #3 What were we thinking Germans vs Americans 81/19 Dinga44 vs Major Tum 76/24 K.A. Miles vs BertBlitzkrieg 71/29 Gort vs Zweihorn 71/29 Mikado vs fiaros (Modified Score by Slysniper, Americans were well defeated but Germans Score did not reflect it because match still had many turns to go.) 65/35 Walker vs U8led 63/37 Ozi Digger vs melb_will bye Warhammer vs Gavlong Germans Dinga44 3 points K.A. Miles 2 points Gort 1 point Mikado 1 point Americans Melb_will 3 points U8led 2 points Fiaros 1 point Zweihorn 1 point Bye Warhammer 1 point Match #1 The last road out Americans vs Germans Bye Ozi Digger vs Gavlong score not sent Mikado vs Zweihorn 80/20 K.A. Miles vs melb_will 69/31 Gort vs U8led 69/31 Walker vs BertBlitzkrieg (modified score 2% for Bert, challenged game award of a flag – Bert can show it in a after action report) 68/23 Warhammer vs Major Tum 61/39 Dinga44 vs fiaros Americans K.A. Miles 3 points Gort 2 points Walker 2 points Warhammer 1 point Germans Fiaros 3 points U8led 2 points BertBlitzkrieg 2 points Major Tum 1 point Bye Ozi Digger 1 point Zweihorn will not be allowed to participate in round two, thus avoiding having bye's for any one else hopefully for this next round. Not something I really wanted to do but he was not able to finish any of his matches, that is just too slow of play for this type of tournament. [ October 12, 2005, 05:02 AM: Message edited by: slysniper ]