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Good points all around about marketing, remember 10 years ago they said pc games would be dead, ran out of the market by consoles. Then steam happened and the recession and the fact that you can buy a AAA title for discount a few months after release. Now we are seeing a resurgence of pc gaming to the extent that steam is trying break into consoles and threaten their piece of the pie. With that indie wargame devs like matrix have crossed over to steam and Amazon, it would be interesting to see their sales stats from that. It would seem relevant to a fellow indie dev like BF.

Like I said, I recently purchased matrixs games on Amazon so what ever moving parts of the deal matrix did with them moving to steam and Amazon, I have no idea. But as a consumer, I can say that having the option of purchasing their products using cash back rewards lead to purchases that I would have passed on other wise. I brought it up because that angle I don't think was covered in that thread you posted. This isn't a "why doesn't BF sell on steam so I can get the game for 5 bucks" request. Believe me I want BF to remain solvent just like all of you. I brought is up because I don't think people are aware that if you buy a product on Amazon you can use cash back rewards. This might be a new insentive for BF taking another look at Amazon. As far as being locked, come on that was pretty tame, I've seen way worse here. I just didn't appreciate the dismissive tone that initially seemed to be expressed.

Bill I think your missing my point here. Ya if your paying hard currency then by all means directly buy through BF. Now if you want to use cash back rewards buy from Amazon whatever price that might be. I guess BF could honor cash back rewards and eliminate the middle man, but that's more far fetch than getting cm on Amazon. As Stagler pointed out the exposure of being on Amazon and steam for that matter is a huge gain over the risk of expanding there.

Lol, so count down we are going flame war or locked or both...? Ok, I take it down a notch..... The intent here is just a little conversation on a purchase alternative that might work for some people. Steve can chime in, explore Amazon, or disregard this thread and let it fade away into obscurity. It was just and idea...that's all.

I just gave examples of purchases of matrix products which are indie wargames like the cm series. I'm just drawing the conclusion that, hey it worked for matrix, why not Battlefront ?

There's some serious curmudgeons here, it's amazing BF has still existed with this nego a fan base.

^ Yes, finally someone thinking outside the box.

^ Because it's just not me, there's several hundred potential customers that would that would use this purchase avenue. I thought I just showed you viable proof in that it could work as an alternative with out BF loosing money. Also the comment on BF adding the cost difference of buying from Amazon onto the final price is still better because again.... I'm not using hard currency to buy the game....so if BF want to sell it for 5bucks more on Amazon, I will still buy it because I'm not using hard currency so I will gladly absorbs the extended price. Another thing to think about is that the recent matrix transactions didn't charge tax or shipping, so I wonder if the logistics of operation inside Amazon and them getting their cut makes the no shipping and tax charge a wash so all three parties involved are happy without any change in price point. So as we debate this topic, I'm sure Steve is watching and looking at Amazon if he hasn't already. Personally I don't care either way I have cmrt, I can play arma3, DCS or CMNAO to simulate crisis in the Ukarine modern warfare. It's up to battlefront if they want to explore new markets or don't and just continue to live in 1999.

^ I doubt there is that significant a cut, and I bet it's negotiable with Amazon. Like I said it worked for matrix / slitherine who are indie wargame developers that were long time hold outs on discounting products so the cut must not have been that much. Come on Steve can't part with two bucks to Amazon on a sixty dollar purchase to increase the consumer buying options ? I have yet to buy Black Sea and I can live with out it, but if BF puts cmbs on Amazon with the option of using cash back rewards, well that's an offer I can refuse. Don't be surprised if there's more consumers just like me waiting for the opportunity. I would not have bought CMNAO or SOG Waterloo with out it this, so hey why shouldn't BF tap into this ?

If your going to quote my post then quote the whole post like you read it properly. I wasn't suggesting BF just give the games away for five bucks.... you just tunneled into the steam part and didn't read the rest. The point is, If BF put CMBS boxed version on amazon at full price, I can buy it with AMEX cash back reward points. It's a win win scenario for consumers and BF.

Has BFC considered selling their recent games as boxed versions on Amazon ? If you search now, it's all old stuff from strategy first, I'm talking all the current stuff including the upgrades. Now the obvious benefit is reaching more consumers. The benefit for me personally is that you can use cash back rewards to purchase wargames. Martix / Slitherine has done this and it directly led to me purchasing CMNAO and SOG Waterloo with AMEX reward points on Amazon. I would have passed on those games, but jumped at getting them with reward points. Did I mention I got them as boxed copies with free shipping. So Battlefront, if your not going to give us Steam style sales, how about throwing us a bone and allow us a purchasing alternative that might save us some money.

+ 1 as well. Also a feature that allows import and export data into the editor / oob to track casualties. This would help support operational campaigns out there using board games or operational wargames.

CMFI gets some love like it goes to Tunisia ? Anything short of that might not get my interest.

I would love this, not only does the ui get too small, but there's tons of unused space. It would be great to have all the buttons and pages displayed in the unused space. Why have to scroll between the fire commands and move commands when most monitors have the space to display all the commands. The best would be to have choices in the options, like one for classic ui and one for wide screen ui.