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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    33 minutes ago, Lethaface said:

    FWIW in the video and text this subject is addressed; I'd say the complexity of the operation was overestimated / bit of a myth.

    According to a dive instructor interviewed in the video, who teaches people to dive at the depths involved (70-80m) in the Baltic sea, this is a complicated dive, but not 'overcomplicated' and well doable for experienced divers. It is his dayjob to train people to do this. He told he was laughing a bit when he heard the same things you post on the news after the attacks.
    They mention minimum of ~50kg of explosive per charge. So a group of 5-6 experienced divers with professional diving equipment could in theory very well have done this from a small boat like that sailing boat.
    One interesting bit also featured is that one harbour master in the area said that it was quite an achievement to do dives like that without anyone noticing (coastguards, navies). 

    According to the research German police have found traces of the same explosive (HMX) that was used for the attack on a table in the ship, which itself was located after info from the MIVD source. Phone numbers / e-mail addresses involved with hiring of the ship point to Ukrainian individuals. 

    All in all I think it's safe to conclude that either someone really wanted to make it look like Ukraine did it, or Ukraine/Ukrainians did it. 

    The ship involved in the evidence could have well been the ship that did it, but could also be part of a larger effort or just a ruse to make it look like Ukrainians did it.

    And what about the timing of this news? Any ideas anyone?

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    6 minutes ago, Lethaface said:

    I certainly don't rule out an FSB plot of 'feeding' info and a trail of evidence pointing towards Ukrainian individuals. And I agree that for national security reasons (especially during wartime although we're not at war) the public doesn't need to know everything. 
    But if such a thing should get out (either in public or as classified info), it will probably be not as happy faces on the next meeting.

    Anyway if I had to put money on either Russia or Ukraine, in the past I would have put it at Russia with a bit more confidence then I would do now. Perhaps I'd put it on Ukraine, as there are at least some leads pointing there.

    On the motive side there is no clear cut case either.

    Anyway let's see if more will be known in the foreseeable future. Might be something that will remain unknown for quite some time. 

    Quite right. Given the fact that we still don't know who killed JFK this might be the next mystery. In a world full of lies who cares anymore. The Russians must be defeated, all else is unimportant. For the moment...

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    4 hours ago, Lethaface said:

     

    While all media has it's issues with bias at times, even public ones like NOS and Nieuwsuur, I feel it's more farfetched to think they area all (including their European partners) bought by FSB.
    FWIW the investigative journalism on the side of Nieuwsuur / NOS is usually of a high level. These are publicly governed and funded news organizations providing among other things the public daily journals in The Netherlands (you know but not everyone here).

     

    Never said 'they all are'. But some for sure.

    4 hours ago, Lethaface said:

     

    The information from the MIVD is also unlikely to be orchestrated by the FSB, unless one believes our military intelligence is compromised. 

     

    Again no. But the information of the MIVD can be manipulated by the FSB, which possibility is more or less admitted in  this documentary. The MIVD will be the first to admit that.

    4 hours ago, Lethaface said:

     

    Anyway I think it's dumb to look at this and think 'blablabla Russia is behind it and I won't believe anything else'. At the same time it would be dumb to conclude for certainty, at this time, that the Ukrainian leadership is behind this. There are still many possibilities, but as more information surfaces there is at least some doubt to be cast on the idea 'must be the Russian's. 

    Therefore this again proves that it is always imperative to keep an open mind about uncertain things. 

     

     

    Let's assume this is a Ukrainian-Polish operation. Perhaps even covered by the Americans, given the dutch warning to Washington, that such an operation was planned by the Ukrainians. Who is to benefit from getting that public? Right.

    The 'people' do not have a 'right' to know the truth. Most of them are far too stupid for that and will draw the wrong conclusions. Russia is at this moment the enemy. That neither Ukraine nor Poland can be entirely trusted is no surprise to those who know the history of these two countries. But at this moment everybody must believe the Russians are behind it. That Swedish/Danish documentary I watched some time ago, is far more convincing than this dutch documentary.

    I smell a rat and it's name is FSB.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    15 hours ago, LuckyDog said:

    It ties in so perfectly with the Russian talking point about the Ukrainians allegedly being Nazis and the opportunity to include Zelensky that I'm starting to wonder if the FSB had some influence in making this happen. Not that it shouldn't have been stopped, but why did someone think this was a good idea?

    My thoughts exactly. A priceless propaganda stunt for Moscow. 

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    13 hours ago, Seedorf81 said:

    The article itself mentions that possibility, but not as the most likely one.

    Some time ago I saw a Swedish or Danish documentary about how the Russia navy is monitoring energy installations in the Baltic Sea and the North Sea. It sounded a lot more convincing. We musn't forget that journalists can (and sometimes are) bought by the Russians and the FSB is a master of deception. Personally I don't give a damn about who did it. I always blame the Russians when something rotten happens and that's usually a safe bet.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    1 minute ago, Seedorf81 said:

    More clues on suspected influence Ukrainians on Nordstream2.

    I do not really know what to think about this, but researchers are no jokers as far as I know.

    Interesting read.

    https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2491917-new-leads-in-nord-stream-investigation-several-ukrainians-in-the-spotlight

    Neither is the FSB. I simply can't imagine the Ukrainian government is involved. I bet there are many Ukrainians on the payroll of Putin.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    4 hours ago, Beleg85 said:

    Magic around absolving Galizien soldiers from responsibility for warcrimes lies in excluding from their list members of police detachments that were from the same wave of volunteers you mentioned before. These were recruits from OUN-M initially unfit for regular service, directed into auxiliary service outside from frontline divison but later (after its restructurization) amalgamated into- namely 4th and 5th Galician Volunteer SS Police Regiments. They participated in following massacres, together with Germans:

    -2.II.1944 Prehoryłe and Smoligów, unkown casualties (investigation still ongoing)

    -28.II.1944 Huta Pieniacka, 800+ civilians murdered/ some burned in houses

    -12.III.1944 Palikrowy, 368 civilians bound together and machine-gunned

    -16.IV.1944 Chodaczkowo Wielkie, 250-850 civilians murdered

    -24.VII.1944 Iwonicz- 72 prisoners from AK and Bch taken and shot/bayoneted.

    -Numerous pacification actions with numbers of killed below 100 (usually 30 people here, 40 there). There are also relations of singular Jew huntings but since they were formed vey late, they weren't "necessary" anymore on big scale.

     

    Yes. But let's not forget what Poland did to the Ukrainians after ww 1. After the conquest of Eastern Galicia the Poles started a terror campaign to destroy the Ukrainian identity and according to British observers in 1930/1931 'the Polish terror in Ukraine is worse than anywhere in Europe, they've made Ukraine into a land of despair and destruction' and 'The Ukraine has been turned into a hell under the Polish occupation, the goal of the Polish policy is the erasion of national minorities on paper and in reality'.

    The situation was the same in White Russia and the former German territories, both occupied by the Polish army after ww1, but that's another story.

    No excuse for Ukrainian attrocites toward Polish civilians, but as background essential to know. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

     

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    9 hours ago, Haiduk said:

    Our tanker told Leo2 has strange thing with a center of mass and in couple with overweight design and insufficient engine power for this weight, the normal fast driving with forward facing of the gun can lead to such effect as on the photo with teared off turret and other mess.   

    Or perhaps simply a matter of inexperienced drivers and insufficient training.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    On 9/20/2023 at 9:06 PM, Harmon Rabb said:

    Hopefully Ukraine and Poland work it out. So far the Ukrainian-Polish relationship during this war has been nothing short of incredible.

     

    Poland used this war to get rid of it's old military junk, get compensated for it by the EU and order new stuff for it's armed forces. As simple as that.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    7 hours ago, Letter from Prague said:

    I guess some of us hoped that the war will help Poland to wake up and become something else than Hungary-aligned force always doing the wrong thing and always trying their best to destroy EU from within. To shake off PiS and become something more. It is obvious now it was too good to be true.

    When crisis comes, people don't change for the better, they become more of what the were before.

    Hear, hear. The present regime of Poland is no reliable ally, but a threat for the European unity, same as that of Hungary. This regime only cares about it's own interests.

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    Sound mod for CMRT?

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    57 minutes ago, kohlenklau said:

    No sweat. It took me about 10 minutes.

    If you find a song or 2 you want made into the intro music. (Just 1 or 2 please). Post the link to the songs here. I can use freeware Audacity to record and make them the CMRT intro music...or post battle music too. Easy peasy

    Thanks for the offer, Phil. These two old German folk songs (Landsknechte) would be great.

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    Sound mod for CMRT?

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    28 minutes ago, kohlenklau said:

    Probably done before but take it or leave it...

    2 CMRT intro music mods to choose from. @Bootie add to CMMODS if you so desire, sah!

    CMRT intro music mod RED ARMY CHOIR KATYUSHA

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    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/k1768ac37rjxo2j51geov/h?rlkey=0ov17l6rzb1sywg9nypijjveu&dl=0

     

     

    CMRT intro music mod CROSS OF IRON MAIN THEME

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    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/l8iv4j3csrpbv54fqk2bw/h?rlkey=3di04rhzvm4vov78400hdv5hh&dl=0

     

     

     

    Thanks Phil.

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    Sound mod for CMRT?

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    On 9/10/2023 at 8:47 AM, StieliAlpha said:

    I  did a collection of „intro music“ for BN, FI and RT a long time ago. For RT Iit included the Russian anthem and a few regimental marches,’IIRC.

    Should still be available at the FGM mod depot. If not, drop me a lined.

     

    I found some of your music on FGM, like Bulge, France 1940, Band of Brothers and Stuka Siren, but not the collection you've mentioned.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    5 hours ago, Sojourner said:

    What does that even mean? How does one know what NATO "expectations" are? Who speaks for NATO?

    Some unnamed source spouting off to a journalist trying to inflate his importance?

    Stoltenberg sure seems to have it right. Listen to his statement linked a few posts up by Harmon Rabb

    That. Bloody journalists. And desinformation by the Russians. Which is often the same thing.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    On 8/26/2023 at 4:35 PM, poesel said:

    There were some Russians ships with turned off transponders in that region just prior to the explosions. They could have placed the explosives or try to remove them. We don't know.

    Pro (Russia is the culprit): they tried to evade the fines for not delivering gas by force majeure

    Contra: why would they destroy a big source of income?

    Yes, but I don't mean they couldn't do it. I meant that they couldn't do it without being caught afterwards. Their track record hasn't been that good lately.

    Quite the contrary. The documentary displays the facts as far as they are known to the public and refrains from presenting a conclusion. But it does list the options. That includes those that most of us probably dislike.

    With this operation the Russians gained something very important. They showed the West that they are able to blow up this kind of connections. Like a warning. And combined with the intense interest of the Russian navy for Western energy installations at sea (windfarms for instance) quite an effective warning.

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