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  1. 6 hours ago, Letter from Prague said:

    I'm just thinking. It seems that Russia started the info-op of trying to blame Ukraine for the attack in full.

    It might be interesting to watch Western media to see which are co-opted by Russia - just like we've seen who is a puppet when we say various German newspapers come with the nonsense about Ukraine blowing up Nordstream. Who will be the first to offer "investigative journalism" on how Ukraine might have been involved I wonder.

    One detail that hit me is that the Russian tv showed a AK 47, painted in phosforus green. That same AK 47 was shown in the released ISIS video. Not sure what to make of that. Perhaps ISIS expected Putin to blame Ukraine for this terror attack, or is this a 'normal' thing to do by ISIS?

  2. 16 hours ago, Letter from Prague said:

    Yeah, no way it was West.

    I think this really really shows the disconnect in thinking between Russia and the West.

    Putin is already saying this is existential war for Russia, he is already saying his objective is to destroy the West, and his people - whether random Russians or weirdos and traitors and useful idiots everwhere in the world - are already believing it. He is already doing everything in his power to do that too - from propaganda to interfering with elections to financing fascist parties to helping Hamas to working with Iran and China to assassinating people in other countries to attacking food to cause famine in Africa because refugee crisis empower Western Fascist to whatever else I have lost track.

    Russia already escalated as high as they dared. If they could do worse, if they could do something more despicable, if they could do something more monstrous, they would have done it years ago.

    I remember all these red lines - nuclear war if West gives Ukraine Javelins, nuclear war if West gives Ukraine tanks, nuclear war if West gives Ukraine planes, nuclear West gives Ukraine gets HIMARS, nuclear war if Ukraine attacks Russian warships, nuclear war if Ukraine fires missiles into Russia ... So really I think if West shot down Russian plane they would do nothing like every time before.

    At the same time, the Western decision makers think (or behave as if they thought) that Russia is a country and not a mafia, and that they are not actually at (hybrid) war with us, and that they can be reasoned with and that keeping some kind of "civilized behavior" with Russia is something that makes sense. This is of course wrong - Russia only understands strength and considers humanity a weakness to be exploited - being civilized or nice only makes you hurt.

    So no way it really was West - if West had balls to engage Russia directly, our current conversation topic on this forum would be "do you think the warlord Ivanov will also take south of Moscow?" and not "it's not good that Ukraine is losing ground and people because West decided to not supply them with enough ammo but what can you do, it could be worse".

    ...

    Anyway, one thing I wanted to say: This actually is an existential war for Russia in a way. It is existential for Putin, sure, but as we came to understood during the war and as we discussed a few times, the common (but by no means only) mindset in common Russians is "things are ****, they used to get better and now they don't, but you know what, at least we are a badass empire". They might be even deluding themselves into thinking that things being bad is a voluntary sacrifice for that badass empire. Lot of people are willing to suffer a lot for being part of something they consider greater than themselves.

    Being decisively shown that Russia is not in fact a cool badass empire they be proud of even if they don't themselves have indoor toilets might really break their worlds. Whatever comes out of that would not be Russia as we know it anymore. This is not existential war for Russia because they will end up in mass graves or enslaved if they lose (like it is for Ukrainians), but it is existential for the Russian imperial mindset.

    Well said! Especially the bold part.

  3. 8 hours ago, poesel said:

    China would never ever do anything that jeopardized international waterways. This would directly cut into their trading revenue and they would bleed themselves.

    Not out in the open, no. But there is enough proof that they made their choice, like joint naval drills with Russia or sending military equipment to Putin. I don't believe in Chinese 'neutrality'. Weakening the West is definitely to their advantage. But like before with Russia,  the masses still need to realize that China is just another ruthless and dangerous dictatorship and even more threatening. Not that the evidence is hard to find, but no one is as blind as he who doesn't want to see. Germany is still investing heavily in China, so they belong to that category. Same as Holland and most Western countries, I suspect. Long way to go.

     

  4. 11 hours ago, Haiduk said:

    It was his choice to live in Spain. He took own former girl with him. Probably through her Russians could track him. But it can be also GUR special operation with fake death, after which this guy will dissappear like Kuzminov and will be completely other person with new face, passport and life story

    I rather doubt the latter, since this news will discourage other Russian desertors from defecting.

  5. 13 minutes ago, Carolus said:

    Well, well I have always wondered what Iran gets out of toppling Yemen (besides squeezing the Saudis from two sides) but control of the international waterways did not occur to me.

    I had assumed Houthis were just the regular Islamist militia with AKs, RPGs and Toyota trucks. But Iran has really upgraded their capabilities while the West was sleeping on it.

    Sleeping indeed. I'm convinced there's a sick 'master plan' behind all this, which was thought out in Moscow and Peking. We can expect a lot more 'conflicts' and 'incidents'. Cold War all over again.

  6. 1 minute ago, Kraft said:

    No, the page quoted a HUR official, who confirmed the russian news.

    Theres also a video with police on scene floating around. Suffice to say russian agents still have a large reach

     

    No doubt about that. Why they didn't protect the pilot better is a mystery to me. 

  7. 12 minutes ago, Jiggathebauce said:

    Don't really see the point of the Patton quote posting. Far right people love to post another quote of his that "we fought the wrong enemy", implying that he would rather have allied with the nazis. Guy was a piece of work. In his own words, quoted in Peter Harts The Last Battle, during the American offensive in 1918, Patton thought he killed an American soldier who was shell  shocked, hitting him over the head. Somehow this anecdotal admission of possible manslaughter/murder has been completely forgotten despite the scandal in WW2 when Patton simply slapped a soldier.  This wasn't the first time Patton inflicted violence against soldiers of his own country who fought in the first war, he helped put down with force the Bonus Army that marched to DC to get the benefits they were owed. 

    Patton was no hero and isn't worth celebrating.

    O yes he was. And history proved him right.

    But enough of this.

  8. 16 minutes ago, panzermartin said:

    Hey, we "peacefully" existed 400 years under the ottoman rule after the fall of Istanbul. Not the greatest of time but we are still here 😉 Yeah, there are choices, maybe less honorable. But probably most will not trade their lives for the hardest option. 

    Anyway, no need to be so dramatic, we are not there yet... 

    But we'll get there if enough people keep thinking like you do.

  9. 6 minutes ago, panzermartin said:

    Hey, we "peacefully" existed 400 years under the ottoman rule after the fall of Istanbul. Not the greatest of time but we are still here 😉 Yeah, there are choices, maybe less honorable. But probably most will not trade their lives for the hardest option. 

    Anyway, no need to be so dramatic, we are not there yet... 

    Perhaps we are not dramatic enough yet....

    Food for thought. A Ukrainian would certainly agree.

  10. 7 minutes ago, Butschi said:

     

    But to value honor, freedom and self respect higher than peace and your life is in itself already a choice you've made and a choice that was made many times throughout history (with both outcomes).

    That is not semantics. It makes all the difference in the world to make that choice deliberately or be forced to.

    Peace can only exist when there is honor, freedom and self respect. If they  are missing there ain't no peace.

    If there ever was a reason to prepare for war, it's now.

     

  11. 3 hours ago, chuckdyke said:

    Guess who said this. World War 2 was just finished. "I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them... the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks."

    Patton?

    Love that guy.

  12. 30 minutes ago, Butschi said:

    Your refreshingly belligerent way of communicating never fails to amaze me.

    For your education: It was part of a quote. The full one goes like this, I think:

     

    But he ain't wrong, is he?

    Playing with semantics  can be irritating, so you've asked for it.

     

  13. 3 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said:

    1. Support Ukraine to continue to fight, even if that means sending what little we have left ourselves.

    2. Rearm like mad, damn the economical consequences, no matter how painful they will be.

    3. Make it clear to our societies that this is only the beginning of a very dark time.

    4. Prepare for large scale war, because that's what we're heading for one way or the other. +

    5. Stop acting as if we have a choice in the matter.

    6. Kill them all. 🧐

    Forgot the most important one. 

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