Kuniworth

Darkstar - since 2002 it's never been a fixed release date for the sc series. It does'nt work like that with furysoftware games. So no need to get angry everything is under control. What makes me(and I think I speak for Jerseyjohn too) is the problem to understand the moderating around here. When we are waiting for a game it's ok to discuss ww2 books and what ifs, but as soon the game is released Battlefront more or less looks up everything you posted. I would ask of the moderators to be a bit more layed back and not lock up everything as off topic.

Lend lease contributed to 4% of the soviet war effort.

Yes you are correct, the red army fought the whole of 1941 with practically what they had already produced and the reconstruction of industry in the urals took over a year. So time was not on Germany's side. To follow up my reasoning in the ansewer to Seamonkey's quote above. Yes you are right in long war Arado. In a short war though you can overcome lack of production and resources. That is how we got blitzkrieg in the first place. It was not an german adoption to what they thought was the "best approach" to land warfare, but it fitted their STRATEGICAL plan to conduct conflicts. The high command knew that on the strategic scale Germany could only survive if conflicts were short, to overcome lack of oil, materials and resources. So that's how blitzkrieg on an operational level was developed, to coordinate with strategical level. Blitzkrieg is thus a result of strategical planning, Guderians ideas would never have gotten so much attention if the plan on strategical level would have been different. And that also explain why blitzkrieg was developed in Germany and not britain or USSR or France although many countries knew of the benefits of tanks from world war one. If you look at Britain, the military strategy of that country differed completly. Safe on it's island the british high command aimed to take the fight to the germans, and went out to find influences. They got it from italian airware strategist Guilio Douhet who argued for an indirect apporach with bombing of the enemy's infrastructure. That's why in the beginning of the war UK had a very strong long range strategic bombing fleet and a small home army. THe strategical level strategy sets the scene for what kind of operational conduct that is performed.

Well I'm not so sure about this. A long war would have meant increased time of the red army to recover which would eventually tip the advantage over to the russians. Barbarossa tried to destroy the red army at the borders but it failed and the soviet union quickly massmobilized up to 20 reserve armies in 1941. After 1941 with the war of attrition the german chance in real life was all over. The decisive blow could have happened at Stalingrad or somewhere else - remember that the russians launched the bigger Rzhev offensive around Moscow eg operation Mars, at the same time as the Stalingrad counteroffensive so the russians had built up a superiority in forces in little over a year. But we will never know for sure. One thing that I found interesting which emphazises the Moscow or Leningrad first strategy, is the neglected fact, that a speedy capture of those would not only sever soviet communication - it would also have restricted evacuation of industry eastward.

I'm sure Paulus handled the 6th Army well when it was on the march, but as a desk-general inside Stalingrad it's quite clear he quickly lost control over the situation. Chuikov, the typical soviet commander, a brawler, had more success in street fighting, relying on leading from the front and adopting to the situation more easily. I'm not sure Rommel would have been a good army, or armygroup commander elsewhere than North Africa. He was above all an extremly good dividional commander. And he was a GAMBLER, always tending to take risks and look for opportunities, almost neglecting logistics I have to say. He was the same in the italian campaign in world war one when he helped defeat the italians at caporetto. That might work well to some degree but it's far from the methodical and flexible approach performed by generals like Model, Kesselring, Manstein, Heinrici. I think El Alamein is a good example of how a methodical approach by Montgomery could stall Rommel. Too often Montgomery is accused of not pursuing and attacking enough, but he stuck to his gameplan and did what had to be done to stop Rommel. Firstly he exhausted the africa korps, then he attacked and over-extended the italians and german forces. Now that was actually a terrific job by Montgomery and knowing of operation torch all that it took to win africa. So to sum it up, I have a hard time seeing Rommel succesfully eject Zhukov's defence at Leningrad or Chuikov in Stalingrad. Can you?

I think Arado got a point with size of poulation which is basically the same fact that Blashy unsuccessfully tried to make concerning war materials. Quality is a clear advantage but in a long war both sides adopt and improve and resources and production matters. This is something that is really important to remember when discussing world war 2, because the axis could afford less errors than the allies. That is also why I think the history of especially the soviet-german conflict lacks, it always comes down to what if germans had winter clothes, what if Hitler had taken Moscow first, what if stalingrad would have fell etc. Not only does it not take into account the opponent may react to different decision, it also shift focus from "the big picture". The truth is the russians made a lot more mistakes and maybe the wehrmacht was not so near winning the campaign at all.

The real drop in temperature around Moscow came in december. By then the wehrmacht had already wore itself out. About middle of november many german generals wanted to halt the operation, basically beacause even if the outnumbered the red army, the enemy still had two well built defensive lines left and could defend in depth. Further more the wehrmacht was overextended and lacked the strength to push on. The problem with logistics meant that clothing was held back to prioritize fuel and ammunition, but that had more an effect when the weather got colder. So when december came the wehrmacht had gone as far as it could and now faced serious problem with materials and men. Red army counterattacked on december 5th. Average temperatures in the region was around -5 degrees celsius in november and -12 in december.

I think it's vital to remember that it was winter that enabled operation typhoon in the first place. The problem was not the weather, both sides suffered, the big problem for the wehrmacht was the logistics.

1) Russian war production recovered in 1942 and surpassed the germans. Despite losing it's industrial base the soviets managed to convert civilian industry for military purposes and move it eastward. Remember: In 1941 the Red army fought until november most of the time outnumbered and with already produced war materials(factory was rebuilt in the urals). Moscow 1941 was the turning point, after that Germany was doomed to a long war. 2) Lend lease from western allies was around 4% of russian war effort 3) Condidering that the russians would have fought hard for the three cities some sort of decisive engagement with massive troop concentrations would have been the case. 4) What the germans intended - advance to astrakhan, set up defensive posture. 5) No considering there was millions of partisans operating behind enemy lines in forrests and swamps. 6) Because Rommel did not even get a fighting chance due to break down of logistics. Look at El alamein. a) amerian superiority in technology and lack of military improvisation of japanese commanders(Midway). Others might have another answer.

It had not so much to do with siberian reinforcements(it's a myth with origins of german sources the impact and size of them btw) and harsh weather. It had to do with the Stavka building up reserves for several months. So outcome would most likely not have changed and even if Moscow fell after city fighting it would still leave the germans exposed to a long war. The big slow down of Barbarossa came around Smolensk in july-september. Reason Hitler chose to starve Leningrad was the fierce resistance and battles of attrition. Armygroup North failed it's initial assault and got bogged down and as Zhukov entered command, the red army began counterattacking. It had not so much to do with weather but lack of logistics in the first place and a completly underestimation of the capability of the red army. The reason the blitzkrieg was broken was due to the vast distances and above all; the brutal resistance of the red army and it's capacity to bring forward reserves. Terrain and weather matters but it did not break the blitzkrieg. Manstein and Guderian and others simply did not have the facts when they wrote their memoirs but with the cold war their picture of "lost victories" have gained ground in the western historical debate. When the soviet archives opened in the 90's new material became available(unfortunately Putin closed them again) which gives the "soviet story" and finally give credit to the war effort. My history professor told me this: "the russian soldier have through history always have had a high combat value as tough soldiers". That is very true. And when the soviet disadvantage against the german mobile warfare could be turned into a war of attrition, as in Stalingrad or at Prokhorovka eg close combat, the russians stood out.

The 7th fliegerkorps was not the only reason operation hercules never happened but it did certainly contribute to it. The 7th fliegerkorps was mauled at Crete and was sent to the balkans to refit. When the russian 54th Army struck at Schlüsselburg east of Leningrad in september 1941, OKW had no reserves and rushed the 7th Fliegerkorps from the balkans to hold. And they did with staggering losses. Had not the 7th been there Leningrad would not have remained cut off. And perhaps Malta would have fallen and thereby the Suez.

Yes Germany was practically broke during the late 30's. It's a myth the success of nazi-politics created by Goebbels that have lived with us to this day. Generous loans from the banks all over the world and forced labour in addition with the goverment taking over jewish businesses profits was the key. Germany could only enter war. American ambassador in Berlin, Dodd, once said you should also include the british and american weapons industry to the war criminals who kept ignoring the versailles treaty selling weapons to the third reich.

Actually the third part you purchased is not really the third part in the series. The title of your book is "after stalingrad", right? That is an older book from Glantz that replaces his "from don to the dniepr" after Glantz had access to better research materials. His third book in the trilogy will be out in mid 2010 what I've read. Part 2 is the one I'm really looking forward to, a more detailed picture of the battle, can you tell me what you think of the book?

Did you know a huge reason Malta was not invaded in spring 1942 was that after Crete Hitler had to use his 7. Fliegerdivision to keep the russian 54th army back at the Leningrad front. So no operation hercules.

what language are you writing in?

Hubert; this is a forum about sc not christmas, consider this your final warning. I also want to wish you all a merry christmas and a happy new year! Regretfully the most decorated soldier of Finland died on december 21. Harry Järv was a legendary soldier, born in 1921 and responsible for hundreds of mission behind enemy lines. I had the oppurtunity to shake his hand once, he traveled all around and told the story of the finnish soldiers from the region Österbotten. One of the great soldiers of ww2 is no longer with us. Rest in peace Harry.

The grandmaster himself is missing in action. Would be nice to see him back for soem gaming. Are you out there Obi wan?

Hm that man...JerseyJohn was'nt he the guy involved in that Jimmy Bogus multiple identity scandal back in the days. And now this...posting a picture of Satan. Moon needs to watch this guy carefully :-)

Looks like it was Gaylord. Steve of battlefront posted this at the general forum: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would have been even faster if I had not been distracted by meaningful work this evening. Mostly digesting a big Christmas party feeding frenzy, but we all have our own horror stories to think of this time of year. And yes, for a bunch of dim witted witless wits, you guessed who this guy was pretty darned quick. I guess Gaylord (no bolding for a banned miscreant, right?) is an example of why we so badly need health care reform in this country. Obviously his insurance dumped him and he's looking to self medicate again. Either that or he's an example of why criminal justice is so badly in need of reform, because he's back out on the streets again without actually being any better than when he went in. Either way it looks like he's out to waste everybody's time again. If we use history as a yardstick this nutter will be back again. If the Justicar, or other member in (cough) good standing, sees this troubled soul here again, please email me and Moon (martin@battlefront.com) so one of us can flip the switch on him if we haven't already.

I think if a dude uses his first post to propose a hug he is no ordinary wargamer.

Hey Dave, he is coming back right? Oh crap all of you guys hold on for dear life.

Ok here are some quotes from the christmas riot for all the new folks to understand what happened 7 years ago.... The christmas riot The christmas of 2002-2003 saw the first uproar in the forum's history. Competitive play created chaos and made Rambo a force to be reckon with. In the meantime Kuniworth started an identity-inquisition to reveil multiple identity-entries: The result was around 15 padlocks and the banning of JerseyJohn and Jim Boggs on false charges. They were lated reinstated. "Checked the ip-numbers through a friends software program. Yep Rambo is another player on this net....and I was right it´s the same ip as Hubert. Funny thing; this alias JerseyJohn also uses the same IP" Kuniworth "Kuniworth....nice try but you have no proof to backup anything you say. I could argue that they are diffrent people by just talking about their member numbers (they are no where near each other), besides, you can tell they diffrent people because they have completely diffrent personalitys. Now quit causing trouble." Comrade Trapp "Gotta beat it, Kuniworth is figuring things out -- stop giving orders! -- he's not giving orders -- stop sticking up for him -- you two stop arguing we gotta find a new IP! " JerseyJohn "No way in hell Jersey John Is Rambo. Same with Hubert, I have assurances from Otto that Hubert isnt Rambo. But Jersey John...." Carl G.E von Mannerheim "Funny no comment by Rambo. I guess he dont have to answer as Jerseyjohn is here." Kuniworth "Dude, its NOT Jersey John! Considering, He has a wife, whom he refers to as the 'ball and chain' Rambo has a girlfriend, and Hubert Is just getting close to this Jenna (I believe it was). Kuni, i respect you, but youre wrong." Carl G.E von Mannerheim "Ran the IP-number through a friends software program. Guess what I found out; Carl von Mannerheim is actually Otto" Kuniworth "I was hoping to find better use of my 1001 Post, but all I have to say is: "Madness, Madness.................MADNESS!" CvM (Otto) (Rambo) (Hubert) (Santa Claus) Claus von Barbi) (Monet) (Nostradomus) (Ignatius Loyola) (Winston Churchill) (Teddy Roosevelt) (Smedley Butler) (William Edmund Ironside) (Gus Grissom) Its too bad im Catholic or else i wouldve had some interesting Pass Lifes! BTW, what i Said about respecting you, I take back." Carl G.E von Mannerheim "Funny thing; it falls into place - if you look at all facts this is what I think is going oN; - The mastermind which no one knows the real name of, just referred to as "Hubert Carter" creates the game - he knows leapholes and how to cheat. Now he gotta create a hype around the game. - He creates an alias - "otto" which he use to make mods and campaigns. Interest grow. All part in the plan.... - Suddenly...strange fellow named Rambo emerge on the forum, winning in strange ways which annoys practically everyone(except me who couldnt care less). The hype around the game is growing, Rambo is mysterious....a poor fellow...lets just call him "Brian" almost commits suicide when he loses to Rambo - Meanwhile, or a bit earlier, another strange character -JerseyJohn- appears with deep knowledge of the war. EXACTLY the kind of knowlege one had to have if you would wanna create a game like SC. Coincidence? I think not So what happens? Interest starts to grow in the wargaming world. He Bribed legendary Les the Sarge to visit the forum, makin all the wargaming fans get excited meeting such a wargamer-god. But the mastermind gotta catch a breath and go on vacation spendin all his new money. So his 14-year old son, Carl, is giving instructions to keep interest up. Carl introduces a new character - CvM - to control the forum. So suddenly "Hubert's" visits to the forum stops while at the same time CvM xan be seen all the time....strange right? I suspected something beeing wrong for a couple month. But it was not until I tred my friends software program I could see the pattern. Is it just me or doesnt this seem a bit like a conspiracy" Kuniworth “I have not gotten a direct response from Rambonehead about sending me a copy of SC and proving I can't fold spindle and mutilate his pathetic little neo wargaming hide, specifically because he has no real skill, and can't handle the challenge.” Les the Sarge “CVM IS A GAY DONKEY DOG!” Comrade Trapp “I may as well come out with it. I am really Rambo. I have multiple personality disorder. Tomorrow I'm going to be Joan Of Arc.” Bullwinkle “Jim Boggs; Do you mean that Herbert Hoover is still alive and disguise himself as Hubert Carter. Thats a pretty wild speculation.” Kuniworth “As stated above, I am not a young kid, and my concepts of treating people with respect and courtesy apparently come across as sappy and gratuitous. I realise that times have changed and the now generation has entirely different ideas on this theme, which is beyond me to comprehend.” Jim Boggs “I bought this game last fall and at that time this forum seemed like such a happy place.! However after Chistmas I got busy with my model building and had not played for sometime. I did check in a few weeks ago and saw a complete change in the forum. I guess when this ladder thing came into being everbody went nuts!” mkctanker ”You need to think for yourself...oh that's right, you live in some Commie-Country were you gotta go with the flow. No wonder you don't like independent, successful, competitive, flag-waving, bible-quoting Americans...it's called Freedom, try it..” Rambo “Please, please tell me what drug you are currently using. I would love to be in your world, even just for a few minutes,...please?” Otto mistrust´s Kunniworth´s identity-inquisition “I got told to post this here, instead of there: Rambo is dork.” BriantheWise “As a newbie, I was pleased to find a forum to discuss the game. I was looking for strats and insights into gameplay, perhaps some matches versus adult opponnents; however, it seems to be controlled by children. I feel like I'm suddenly in the middle of a pre-pubescent pissing match.” Andre Bolkonsky “Far as Rambo movies sucking...Of course you don't like them. You're a Russian Communist. The world likes to tell us Americans what's wrong with our culture, life, & religion as they beg to come into our country. And the crowd cheered,"USA...USA...USA...USA" And the congregation said, AMEN” Rambo “What the hell does this have to do with this TOPIC? You have to be one the most instigating individuals i've ever seen. Man stick to a topic!” Hueristic “Conspiracy Theories! I love it! Guess what guys, I'm actually Moon, and Eva Braun/Hitler and sometimes, when I'm really lucky, I'm Cobra Commander, modern day dictator with a socially acceptable and politically correct logo.” Otto ” Hey Rambo, go pound sand. What the heck is the matter with you? Found somebody like me that can talk more smack than you can? You don't like it? You can dish it out but can't take it? You got your feelings hurt or something? Grow up! No sooner did I say something more on this stupid subject than you jump up and throw another handful of mud. You are more predictable than the AI, but with considerably less personality.” Bill Macon “For lack of vigilant moderators, this forum tends to drift off-course like some bad scene in "Lord of the Flies. Bill Macon is desperate “Kuniworth Thanks for dancing on my grave with such vigor and I hate to say this, but you forgot to zip your fly after doing it on my headstone.” JerseyJohn “I really think this thread can be useful to Hubert and if it gets locked down for turning into a flamefest it would show tremendous disrespect for a class guy” Jim Boggs “These petty moanings coming from the self-proclaimed icon, legend, forum-cop, industrialist, philanthropist and bicyclist.” Leopard to Jon J Rambo “It's the game, Rambo. Winning or losing, who cares? I sleep well at night, always. I have had to sacrifice for the cause of my integrity. And Integrity, to me, is all that matters. Why do you lie? Why so intense on proving yourself here? Why is this so important that you will decieve and lie and accuse and well, I don't know the words, but the thought is masturbate yourself to excellence in this house?” BrianTheWise “Yes, the locking begins now with this thread. And if things continue on the current note, the banning will follow. Guys, this forum is about SC. No personal stuff. You guys have a Peng thread now for trash talk, use it. Anything off-topic outside of that will be moved or locked, and I am going to kick everybody out of these forums who continues to post nonsense. I'd rather be enjoying New Year celebrations, and since you guys force me to hang around here instead, I'm angry.” Moon draws the line "Many of us surely expected your intervention. Padlocks are designed for a good and sufficient reason. Mindless nihilism is hardly a substitute for measured and cogent commentary. Unless of course there is a need to over-throw a terrible Tyrant, or briefly explore the Collective Unconscious" Immer Etwas "No problem, "Always Something". Seems to have helped at least, though of course it's possible that all the troublemakers are simply offline sipping champaign, while I'm sitting in front of the computer screen staring at the forums" Moon the brave moderator " I got suspicious and ran the IP numbers through my friends softwareprogram. As I suspected Moon got the same number as Immer Estwas. The conspiracy is growin..." Kuniworth "Agreed entirely that you had to padlock those alledged forums. Can't for the life of me apologize. First time I've ever been accused of multiple personalities and also the first time I've needed to enlist the aid of Three Headed Dragons, Superman, Alan Ginsberg and Sigmund Freud in my own defence." JerseyJohn "Wait a minute, I just want to get this straight. According to you Rambo is Hubert right? And these two are both JerseyJohn as well. And on top of that I'm the same as Cvm right? OK, now that we got all this straight, the proper way to phrase what you said is: The Gamer known as Rambo and/or Hubert and/or JerseyJohn called the gamer known as CvM and/or Otto a bitch." Otto doesn´t believe in Kuniworth´s conspiracy-theories "I've been commenting lately that someone seemed to be tampering with my postings. This morning I found a posting I didn't make with my forum name of JerseyJohn -- it was by Jon__J__Rambo or whatever he calls himself. In it he….posts some stupid remarks referring to me as "Claus Boobie” JerseyJohn “This Jon__J__Rambo character is not the first nor the last fellow to make a nuisance of himself. Just ignore him and he'll eventually go away, or reform himself, or simply be banned by the moderators.” Bill Macon was wrong back in 2002 “You have a weak mind & character! Why you can't even address me face-to-face. You cry like a little tattle-tale to "Dear Hubert, this Rambo guy is a stud & making me look bad". It's funny, then you turn around & post German soldier pictures like your a tough guy or something. The whole time you hide behind your computer. I don't hide behind the computer; I meet my opponents "in the Game” Jon J Rambo vs JerseyJohn It would be nice if people would get rid of those long stupid 'signatures' at the end of their posts. Okay, it's great that you have a cool quote from some dead soldier. Hell, you guys have paragraphs for a 'signature' about a bunch of crap,"Gee, the Finns have a great long sword that fought of the masses in the year 1212; Don't run with scissors or you might get hurt; Yak-Yak-Yak; Yak-Yak-Yak; Yak-Yak-Yak; And another Dead Soldier said, War is a bitch, maybe God will let me in heaven if I wouldn't have killed more to keep them out -A Dead Soldier Signature" Rambo tells CvM the hard truth "First off, I think its pretty bad you have to pick fights with a 14 year old, As that now my own AAR's are in the cross-hairs, I feel a duty to defend myself" CvM "Carl Van History Smack --- Who said I was picking a fight? I was just answering back the same manner you & your slumber party buddies are. You're having some circle hug party over this 'AAR thing'. But at the same time claiming others aren't talking about SC. I didn't see your birth certificate, so maybe you should do a new 'AAR thing' about it. By the way, I'm only 12." Jon J Rambo “Where u from private rambo? Holy dog ****! Idaho? Only steers and queers come from Idaho, Private rambo. And you don't look much like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down.” Codename Condor “Thanks also to my friend Rambo for recommending I stop using multiple identities and start being myself, have some self-esteem, etc., Advice well taken. So far I've masqueraded, according to Mr Kuniworth, as Hubert, Rambo, Jim Boggs and CvM . Of the lot, as I've said earlier, I had the most fun pretending to be you. If the truth must be known, JerseyJohn and Kuniworth are one and the same and I'm denying that even as I say it.” JerseyJohn "The SC forums have been quite irritating (and off-topic) in the past, much more so than any other of our forums, and that's why we are currently keeping a close eye on what is going on here. Hubert, now back from well deserved vacations, will be helping, too." Moon "Sorry for hi-jacking this thread for a second, but it seems like the appropriate place to post that both Jim Boggs and JersayJohn - engaged in such a friendly discussion here - have now been banned. It appears both are the same person, as a quick IP comparison has revealed. Both accounts used two identical IPs on more than one occasion, which is enough proof for us to assume that it's somebody using multiple logins. This is not allowed by our forum rules, therefore both accounts have now been banned." Moon "Moon! Here we go man. I suggested before that JerseyJohn was actually CvM. Man I was in the right continent but wrong person. Keep up the work. I guess some guys will shake now when SC-administration looks deeper into this conspiracy. No one gonna call Old´Kuni a fool anymore" Kuniworth "That's no surprise. I thought Boggs asskissing seemed terribly familiar, and nauseating, now I know why. " JP Wagner "But didn't u accuse Rambo,jersey and hubert o being the same guy?" Hueristic "Nope I said Rambo and Hubert were the same. And that CVM and JerseyJohn showed tendencies to be the same person. I know that this may seem incredible but Im actually workin with interpretin handwriting at the swedish Police." Kuniworth "What the hell (heaven) is going on? Jersey & Jimmy Bogus are the same dude? There's something weird about that. I knew we already had a bunch clowns online, now we have a circle jerk." Rambo "Jersey --- If you can read this I'll give you a pointer on life: Get some confidence in yourself & don't worry what others think. Be a man, step-up & sack-up. Jim Boggs --- Lets just call you Jimmy Bogus. Sorry, you can't be on Team-USA if you're some other dude. And if anybody is going to be cloned, it should be me. To everybody else --- Are there anymore freaks out there that need banned? This includes perverts, german-worshippers, & stuff I don't even want to know about." Rambo "After banning their accounts on the grounds that two identical IP numbers were used on multiple occasions for their posts, and that therefore it seemed that both were the same person (which is a violation of our forum rules), it now seems after additional evidence was presented that this was a mistake indeed. The chances for two IP numbers matching are very low, which is why I took action, but it turns out that it was incorrect to do that, so both accounts are reinstated again. Ain't nobody perfect, and I'm sorry if this caused any inconveniencies. In order to not distract from on-topic discussions, I'm locking up this announcement. Welcome back Jim Boggs and JerseyJohn." Moon “Mistakes were made, apologies sent and accepted, despite this there were reactions during and after yesterday's incident was concluded. I am asking that everyone just cool off as much as possible.” Hubert "The last time you had these theories I wound up saying I'd defend your right to do this even to the bitter end, Jim Boggs and myself wound up being banned on the mistaken belief we were the same person, You said "Yes, I knew it all along" and proceeded to do a brisk Rhumba on my grave. But who can remember these things?" JerseyJohn to Kuniworth, on christmas riot memory lane

Brian the Dane...you by any chance identical with Brian the Wise that was involved in the christmas riot? Remember this? “It's the game, Rambo. Winning or losing, who cares? I sleep well at night, always. I have had to sacrifice for the cause of my integrity. And Integrity, to me, is all that matters. Why do you lie? Why so intense on proving yourself here? Why is this so important that you will decieve and lie and accuse and well, I don't know the words, but the thought is masturbate yourself to excellence in this house?” BrianTheWise goes insane

SC1 had hexes and not as powerful editor. Basically less units and lots of flaws but it was world class in head to head games. Beautiful game, one of my all time favorites.

Hey Snowman. I see your point and will tell all those who wrote me e-mails and try to convince them that this was just simply a misunderstanding. People thought you were a spammer and your wall street background didnt help, but I see your intention is good so I won't report you to the moderators. I'm not sure if anyone reported you and this thread to the Moderators for a banning(due to off topic postings) but I hope not. I can't see any intention of satan here. Look the rules are here for our own good, you see? By the way did you know MadMatt made the original sounds for sc1? Who's laughing now at the rules huh?