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I think Vladimir (but I am not going to put words or thoughts into your head) that we may have a language issue here. Your command of written English is very good Vladimir, but you are posting a word that really does not exist in English. "cowarding" is not a word, the English word coward means;  "a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things." The word used in the game is "cowering" which means; "to crouch down in fear." Now cowering does not necessarily mean that the soldier in the game has no courage, it means he is hiding from or trying to avoid incoming fire. He may start shooting back after a few seconds of cowering, or he may stay in that state for longer periods. Correct me if I am wrong Vladimir, but I think you are equating the act of cowering by the pixel troops as an act of cowardice, which IMO may not be the case. Or you may just have typo-ed the word.
I don't think that any simulation even one as well coded as Combat Mission can truly duplicate the mental and physical responses of a human being under combat conditions. This was well articulated by Steve, and all the points he makes reinforces this notion.

Give it a rest John, no one really cares about your little spat with sublime. What you do off line with someone you are playing a pbem with is none of our business.  Settle your differences in private not on the forum!

Give it a rest John, no one really cares about your little spat with sublime. What you do off line with someone you are playing a pbem with is none of our business.  Settle your differences in private not on the forum!

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a954940.pdf
 
This report may prove interesting, although very technical. This test was done on the side armor (no specific location for the sample section that I can find). Also it does not say what model Panther was used.
 
I would assume though, that the glacis plate used similar materials. Since the report is dated after war one could assume that the steel came from a G model, although As and Ds were still on the field in 1945.

Really? I think the opportunity for us "Westerners" to get interesting anecdotal stories of real military experiences from our former "enemies" is really important. I grew up during the cold war, the missle race, the space race and all the other competitions real or imagined that took place primarily between the US and the former Soviet Union. I myself am tired of the conflict. Russian and American people have more in common than we like to admit, and to continue the Cold War on these forums is a waste of time. We can learn from each other here, many more things than just the common interest we have in military matters.  As my friend sublime has said, sarcasm and other verbal nuances do not work well in message boards and forums, especially when not all of us have a common native tongue. I only brought up the T-64 autoloader story because it was something we heard back in the 60's when the Soviets were putting them into front line service. If its totally without merit then you have convinced me, and I will stand corrected on the issue.
 
Let's not waste the opportunity, to move past our old suspicions and predjudices and really have some credible give and take.
We can still enjoy playing this game, and debating related interests without starting World War Three on these boards.

Really? I think the opportunity for us "Westerners" to get interesting anecdotal stories of real military experiences from our former "enemies" is really important. I grew up during the cold war, the missle race, the space race and all the other competitions real or imagined that took place primarily between the US and the former Soviet Union. I myself am tired of the conflict. Russian and American people have more in common than we like to admit, and to continue the Cold War on these forums is a waste of time. We can learn from each other here, many more things than just the common interest we have in military matters.  As my friend sublime has said, sarcasm and other verbal nuances do not work well in message boards and forums, especially when not all of us have a common native tongue. I only brought up the T-64 autoloader story because it was something we heard back in the 60's when the Soviets were putting them into front line service. If its totally without merit then you have convinced me, and I will stand corrected on the issue.
 
Let's not waste the opportunity, to move past our old suspicions and predjudices and really have some credible give and take.
We can still enjoy playing this game, and debating related interests without starting World War Three on these boards.

Really? I think the opportunity for us "Westerners" to get interesting anecdotal stories of real military experiences from our former "enemies" is really important. I grew up during the cold war, the missle race, the space race and all the other competitions real or imagined that took place primarily between the US and the former Soviet Union. I myself am tired of the conflict. Russian and American people have more in common than we like to admit, and to continue the Cold War on these forums is a waste of time. We can learn from each other here, many more things than just the common interest we have in military matters.  As my friend sublime has said, sarcasm and other verbal nuances do not work well in message boards and forums, especially when not all of us have a common native tongue. I only brought up the T-64 autoloader story because it was something we heard back in the 60's when the Soviets were putting them into front line service. If its totally without merit then you have convinced me, and I will stand corrected on the issue.
 
Let's not waste the opportunity, to move past our old suspicions and predjudices and really have some credible give and take.
We can still enjoy playing this game, and debating related interests without starting World War Three on these boards.

Really? I think the opportunity for us "Westerners" to get interesting anecdotal stories of real military experiences from our former "enemies" is really important. I grew up during the cold war, the missle race, the space race and all the other competitions real or imagined that took place primarily between the US and the former Soviet Union. I myself am tired of the conflict. Russian and American people have more in common than we like to admit, and to continue the Cold War on these forums is a waste of time. We can learn from each other here, many more things than just the common interest we have in military matters.  As my friend sublime has said, sarcasm and other verbal nuances do not work well in message boards and forums, especially when not all of us have a common native tongue. I only brought up the T-64 autoloader story because it was something we heard back in the 60's when the Soviets were putting them into front line service. If its totally without merit then you have convinced me, and I will stand corrected on the issue.
 
Let's not waste the opportunity, to move past our old suspicions and predjudices and really have some credible give and take.
We can still enjoy playing this game, and debating related interests without starting World War Three on these boards.

In my experience we rarely, if ever,  set up a claymore for trip wire detonation. We used them on ambushes, and for defensive protection of our nighttime positions. They were always in the command detonation mode.
 
On night ambushes, as a combat engineer it was my job to set up some sort of improvised tripwire device(s) that would trigger an ambush when someone walked through the area. We did not do this indiscriminately. We truly hoped that civilians would not be walking through the area at night, especially an area of active engagement. I now would like to tell an interesting story. In May of 1967 I was involved in Operations , supporting the 3rd Marine Regiment south of Da Nang in South Vietnam. One night I went out on an ambush patrol and I set up a daisy chained string of c ration cans stuffed with C-4 and machine gun links. I set this up around sunset and placed two separate trip wires, as well as a wire running back to our positions attached to a mechanical detonating device we called a "clacker" To make a long story short, the night was uneventful, and at dawn I went out to retrieve my handiwork and found that all the cans and devices that I had emplaced were gone. Obviously someone watched me set everything up, and quietly and efficiently removed each can and wire without either making a sound or triggering the devices. The implications sent chills up my spine, and from that day on, I either avoided using ambush triggers entirely or set them up in darkness.

http://s2.dmcdn.net/Ba716/1280x720-lKR.jpg

U.S. Marine Corps[edit]
The U.S. Marine Corps, has retained the regiment as a basic unit smaller than a division but larger than a battalion, and it continues to employ reinforced regiments as R.C.T.s in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Under current US Marine Corps doctrine, a Marine Division typically contains three organic Marine infantry regiments. Whenever a Marine Expeditionary Brigade (MEB) is formed within its parent Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF), one of the division’s infantry regiments is designated as the base of the Regimental Combat Team (RCT) and serves as the Ground Combat Element (GCE) of the MEB.
The regiment, commanded by a colonel, consists of a Headquarters Company and three identical Marine infantry battalions. The regiment is then heavily reinforced by other division assets to form the RCT.
These reinforcements typically include:
One artillery battalion (drawn from the division’s organic artillery regiment), consisting of a Headquarters and Service Battery and four identical firing batteries, each containing six 155mm towed howitzers;
An armored vehicle battalion equivalent, consisting of an Assault Amphibian Company (Reinforced) (48 Amphibious Assault Vehicles), a Light Armored Reconnaissance Company (Reinforced) (27 Light Armored Vehicles) and a Tank Company (Reinforced) (14 Main Battle Tanks), each drawn from their parent division’s organic type battalion;
A combat support battalion equivalent, consisting of a Combat Engineer Company, a Reconnaissance Company (each drawn from their parent division’s organic type battalion), and a Support Company, formed from the parent division’s Headquarters Battalion, consisting of platoons from the Headquarters, Communications, and Truck companies.(copied from Wikipedia)
 
Again this is not your British Airborne unit, sorry....but the USMC has retained the regimental infantry concept since WW2, which is similar in some ways to the regiments of the British Army. Marine units of this type formed the right flank of the drive from Kuwait to Baghdad, and while they did not face the type of weapons system depicted in CMBS, their performance can give you an indication on the uses of light infantry with extra support provided to survive on the modern battlefield. With the help of special amphibious assault vessels maintained by the US Navy, the USMC is one of the few large organizations still capable of inserting into a battlespace from the sea.

In 1983 the Soviets shot down Korea Air Flight 007 claiming, after initially denying it, that the civilian 747 was a spy plane. Everyone aboard was killed.
 
This is what can happen when the tactics that we are discussing get out of hand. This incident caused such a world wide stir that flight patterns from Alaska to Asia were changed, and the US allowed international access to its then top secret Global Navigation Satellite System, which is now called GPS.
 
We have already had an airliner shoot down over the Ukraine, it can easily happen again if someone makes a mistake or misinterprets a radar blip.
 
http://theweek.com/articles/445179/heres-last-time-russia-shot-down-passenger-plane

In 1983 the Soviets shot down Korea Air Flight 007 claiming, after initially denying it, that the civilian 747 was a spy plane. Everyone aboard was killed.
 
This is what can happen when the tactics that we are discussing get out of hand. This incident caused such a world wide stir that flight patterns from Alaska to Asia were changed, and the US allowed international access to its then top secret Global Navigation Satellite System, which is now called GPS.
 
We have already had an airliner shoot down over the Ukraine, it can easily happen again if someone makes a mistake or misinterprets a radar blip.
 
http://theweek.com/articles/445179/heres-last-time-russia-shot-down-passenger-plane

For a non-native English speaker I am very impressed with your abilities in the language. I wish I had been able to learn another language with enough confidence to verbally spar on a message board as you are able to do.
 
Your use of sarcasm in a non-native language is also quite impressive  ,that is of course that you don't posses fat fingers.

Now John, is this topic really valid for the CMSF Forum?
 
I have a link to a story on how Doctors at the Mayo Clinic are using re-engineered AIDS virus cells to kill Leukemia cells in children and adults, with a 90% full remission rate. This story is far more uplifting and shows how hard we are working to alleviate human suffering, while ISIS continues to ravage the Middle East in its attempt to turn back the clock 800 years.
 
Which would you rather read?
 
This is a game forum not a world events forum, John please learn the difference.

Now John, is this topic really valid for the CMSF Forum?
 
I have a link to a story on how Doctors at the Mayo Clinic are using re-engineered AIDS virus cells to kill Leukemia cells in children and adults, with a 90% full remission rate. This story is far more uplifting and shows how hard we are working to alleviate human suffering, while ISIS continues to ravage the Middle East in its attempt to turn back the clock 800 years.
 
Which would you rather read?
 
This is a game forum not a world events forum, John please learn the difference.

Now John, is this topic really valid for the CMSF Forum?
 
I have a link to a story on how Doctors at the Mayo Clinic are using re-engineered AIDS virus cells to kill Leukemia cells in children and adults, with a 90% full remission rate. This story is far more uplifting and shows how hard we are working to alleviate human suffering, while ISIS continues to ravage the Middle East in its attempt to turn back the clock 800 years.
 
Which would you rather read?
 
This is a game forum not a world events forum, John please learn the difference.

The Russians learned how to keep old vehicles running from the Cubans. Havana has more vintage American cars on the road than Jay Leno 

Trying to match Kettler post for post, is a difficult thing. At times he is very rational and puts forward arguments that are both relevant and interesting. In mind mind he is somewhat of an enigma, claiming to have problems which effect his ability to think and read, but yet is capable of posting enormous rambling items, with numerous links and expert use of the coding of the forum.
Someone else is doing this or he really has no cranial difficulties and uses it as a defense against some of the severe and maybe mean spirited criticism he receives here. I am sometimes intrigued by what he posts, and I am often at odds with his viewpoints, but I can never match him for pure ability to frame any argument, back it up with dozens of internet links, and make claims that sometimes are totally unverifiable. Still, he is an interesting character and adds a lot of flair to otherwise dull exchanges on military and game related matters.
 
 
You seem like an intelligent guy with a lot of in the first hand field experience with the goings on in the post cold war realm of the military. You at least also take the time to propose your point of view with no apologies, and no concern for the sensibilities of other posters. Which I am sure will rile some folks up, but is often needed for an honest discussion of things that have nothing to do with the game. The Admin folks have been fairly benevolent in allowing discussions not directly related to game play to go on, especially in the Black Sea Forum. Once an East vs West argument reaches critical mass, I'm sure they will step in a lock things up.
 
Who do you dislike (I won't say hate, too strong a word at this point) more, the Iraqis or the Russians? I'm may be one of the ones who thought that going to war in Iraq would turn out to be a good thing. I also believe that war used as a political tool is usually the cause of problems later on. Maybe if we had crushed Sadaam Husein in 1991 when we had sufficient power on the ground to enforce a surrender we could have avoided 2003. If warfare is used one side or the other must totally impose their will upon the other. The last time this happened was in 1945, look how nice the Japanese and Germans have been since then. Especially in the light of how horrible they were prior. Mutually Assured Destruction changed the ground rules of warfare we could kill each other with glee as long as it didnt get to the point where one side would drop the bomb. The age of total conventional war was ove, and all of the unresolved conflicts that we have had since have come full circle in the behavior of the Russians in the current Ukraine situation. IMO of course.

Now John, is this topic really valid for the CMSF Forum?
 
I have a link to a story on how Doctors at the Mayo Clinic are using re-engineered AIDS virus cells to kill Leukemia cells in children and adults, with a 90% full remission rate. This story is far more uplifting and shows how hard we are working to alleviate human suffering, while ISIS continues to ravage the Middle East in its attempt to turn back the clock 800 years.
 
Which would you rather read?
 
This is a game forum not a world events forum, John please learn the difference.

A great scenario for H2H play in the MG Mod is "Borderland"
 
 
 
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This is a mainly infantry contest (Germans get three small tanks) simulating the shrinking British pocket at Oosterbeeck.
Heavily wooded terrain with small villages and buildings scattered about. Deadly close quarter fighting. I suffered shocking losses as German player...you just keep walking into one ambush after another. So much fun! Probably easier for the Germans against the AI, but smart human defender (which I had) makes every inch of ground forward a deadly chore.

The landing of the ANZACs must have really annoyed the Turks who were also commencing their Genocide against Armenians on the same day as the landing.

If it is anything like your past scenario efforts, I'm sure it will be exciting and fun to play.
 
Thank you.

This technology is viable, but it's still decades away. Like most other plans for "Green Energy",  R&D is expensive, the market is not there to support it, and fossil fuels are becoming cheaper and cleaner.
 
Don't know if that observation is trenchant enough for this thread, but it seems to follow the new direction.

Then he wouldn't be a troll.