panzermartin

For a moment I thought geography was inverted to prove my point false. Thanks. All I wanted to say before I was shot on the wall, was that the fears of Russia reaching the Atlantic with the current scale and intentions of this war, have no actual base in reality or history. At least, I'm glad I unite this forum

Please laugh if this makes you less anxious about Russia invading Netherlands Please read again my post. "Went deeper in Western Europe". That's quite different than a war on their western border. But the truth is Berlin and Paris saw russian soldiers in their streets only after Germans and French tried to march in Moscow.

Historically Russia went deeper into Western Europe only after Western Europe attacked Russia. Napoleon, Hitler etc..Kinda of reactionary counter offensive. I can't see this changing now, especially since the motivation of russians to fight in Ukraine and protect vital interests and russian populations there is already low and men are fleeing to Georgia, Turkey and god knows where else. Russia doenst have the means to advance even past the Dnieper. NATO air foce alone will be enough to stop them. Realisticaly the only fear is the nuclear escalation. Thats why we are trying to keep this war "small"

Just a company of VBIEDs

Stopped checking my phone to go out and now the coup is over? I'm so confused. So Russia, is a riddle wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma after all... Maybe though inside a madman's mind.

Prig going down the path of Ernst Rohm

Maybe I missed those videos. That lead me to the impression that the en masse surrender or abandonment of equipment of the early weeks of the war are no longer. I think the addition of barrier units were introduced later to counter these. Still shocking these are still employed like it's the 40s again....

Haven't seen one for a while, guess some still want to live!

Speaking of the quality or mentality of the Russian troops in Ukraine...I'm trying to figure an explanation why we are seeing less and less russian prisoners, and the ones in the video prefer to die than surrender/retreat. It's like Stalin not one step back 1941 again? What's going on. We literally saw Ukraine SF begging them to surrender but still didn't work... Is it the misery of war that has taken all sense and desire for life, is it the NKVD squad waiting in the woods behind, is it drugs, is it brainwashing, has the mutual hate crossed the point of no return, or we don't see enough of what's happening to pows (from both sides) ?

After the suicide vbied T55s, MTLBs, the moving House tank, Lada Niva AT hunter, maybe there is enough material for a future module with the chance to see also sidecars in CM:

Not sure about downed Ka 52s but this one definitely got hit by something but still goes on flying: (apologies if this has been posted before)

Zaporizha front, beware of the Lada Niva tank hunter.

Hey who's screaming now. It's not my fault I had to reply to 20 posts about copium. I'm out for now. Peace.

The thing is, I never expected the forum to take a meme word like Copium so seriously! I personally find it funny, it's unfortunate that this was taken as screaming insults to fellow members or undermining their intelligence, which absolutely is not my intend. It was in a definetely lighter tone, written text cannot convey accurately. Maybe in my other words I put some of the everyday pressure and I'm not on the receiving end to realize it. Something to improve I guess.

There, thank you. I think I can't edit to avoid misunderstanding. Undermining was meant for Underestimating /bashing /ridiculing Apologies

I could reply unleashing the dangerous isotope Copium that shocked some people here , but I forgive you for falling so low and calling me a Putin propagandist, since you are clearly in rant mode

For the record, the commissar comment wasn't for anyone else but Grigb exclusively for his strict suggestion to Butschi to stop supporting his "friend" his "lie" and his bold points with phrases like "end of story", meaning he had absolutely the last word. I'm sorry I have been annoying and contrarian, it's not from a caprice but out of my desire for "justice" and "balance". I would do the same in a pro russian forum, I think one of the most dangerous things in society is being collectively in agreement or sometimes fixation to a certain point, even when there is not enough evidence to prove us 100% right. And how could that be, given the fog of war and the propaganda from both sides? I've been here since the Iraq war and I had some familiar experiences. There was a trigger happy board full of testosterone and we know what happened. God knows how many personal attacks I received. In the real world, WMDs were never found, half a million of people died, Middle East is still a mess, refugees are getting drown in the Mediterranean as we speak... and US was led to discredit and isolation, and that even might have played a role in the rise of Trump, the current mess In Ukraine etc... I feel our Europe is in deep trouble with this war, and constantly undermining Russia is a dangerous habit I won't support here, but point taken I will try to be more constructive in the future.

Honestly you are one of the last persons I could have issues in this forum. I respect your professional input , you almost by accident got in the crosshairs. Apologies for that. The commissar comment was totally not for you btw. For the rest, we will have to wait I guess. Russia practically is against a coalition of 40 countries, is getting hit from unlimited state of the art weaponry, we saw how they lost 5 Mstas in a short time with precision strikes. They are really with their backs on the wall so chances are that at some point their arty might succumb.

Will the report of the russian commander that "our artillery was engaged in counter battery operations during the early stages of the attack" offer a small alternative hint? If we can trust the russian commander...that is. But makes some sense there could be busy in a heavy CB duel that we just couldnt realize from the short video. For what is worth, some of their guns could have been even out of action or supressed by the time of the video as well.

Hahah, no need to be so dramatic to the risk of injury Look, we are probably the only corner in the internet right now, that from all that incident, and from all the 67 things that went wrong for UA and right for RU, we focused mainly on the arty. But lets go again. RU lies a lot, but probably less than they used to,simply because you can't hide everything from today's all seeing eye. Moskva was so shockingly embarrassing loss that I nearly understand the cope effort. Lying about artillery support in a *successful * mission (to lie to the public, to your commander, to the enemy) while the whole battle is filmed by your drones, makes 0% sense, I won't lie to you.

There you said it. I dont want to participate in another echo chamber, there are lots out there. Its understandable that given the composition of this board, that we might be turning into a North Atlantic war room and less of a discussion board, which might raise morale but isnt interesting, productive or even helpful for UA in the long run, if thats what most are interested about. @Grigb I never said that russian arty as a whole isnt' affected by a year's and a half campaign. I only pointed out that the specific 47th incident was not enough for a conclusion in that sector. You even said that this failed breach was a success in revealing the arty positions of RU arty reserves, the same that The_Capt said that they dont exist. I also don't think other posters here need lecturing like we are part of a military unit and we are briefed by the comissar. Thanks.

I don't see any point in them lying particularly about the use of artillery here...The whole battle was very much put forward on all media from the RU side, videos from helos, videos from the ground. They seem pretty eager to expose all the bits of their success. And we indeed saw some guns firing. But it was a few seconds long fragment of video. The new info here is that some of their artillery were commited in CB that we couldn't conclude from the videos. Thats interesting. I'm sure you know better if a battery is assigned only CB or it can switch missions on the fly depending on the situation. So if a battery had to do both CB and fire support might be a sign that there werent so many available guns around. But lets wait for a more detailed report from the UA on the receiving side, if there is any coming. That would be informative.

So the author doesn't agree with the suggestions here that RU got lucky and their arty was problematic in that particular sector. Instead he describes an excellent defensive action in many layers.

BTW this is one of the videos I was talking about, from what I can tell it's the same sector and incident, different timing. There is some heavy artillery firing no doubt