Wehr

7 Sep 1944 Finnish peace delegation arrives to Moscow. 8 Sep 1944 First German troops start retreat in Kestenga sector. 14 Sep 1944 Finnish delegation starts negotiations on interim peace. Germans lay mines in the Gulf of Finland. 15 Sep 1944 German attempt to seize Suursaari island. Landing fails and Germans have to surrender. They lost 1253 men dead or POW, plus additional 900 drowned with 9 vessels. First losses in Northern Finland: 3-men motorcycle patrol is destroyed after refusing to surrender. Germans destroy airfield in Pori. 18 Sep 1944 Germans and Finns make an agreement concerning how Germans will leave Finland. This prevents all battles until Oct. 19 Sep 1944 Interim peace is signed in Moscow. Troops begin to withdraw to borders of 1940. Other terms include reparations for the sum of U$ 300 million, demobilization of armed forces and allowing the Communist Party to operate in Finland. Final peace is signed in 1947 in Paris. 22 Sep 1944 First members of Allied Control Commission arrive in Helsinki. Soviets take Tallinn, capital of Estonia. 28 Sep 1944 First actual battle between Finns and the Wehrmacht in Pudasjärvi. 29 Sep 1944 Last Finnish troops leave Soviet Union. Porkkala area is given to Russians. 30 Sep 1944 Soviets demand active war against Germans. Three merchant ships leave the port of Oulu, carrying 11th Infantry Rgt. 1 Oct 1944 11th Rgt lands in Tornio and takes the town. Armored Division begins to advance in Pudasjärvi. 2 Oct 1944 Germans counterattack in Tornio and battle rages for four days, then Germans leave. 3 Oct 1944 Hitler issues order that 20. Gebirgsarmee will evacuate Finland and retreat to Norway. 7 Oct 1944 15th Brigade and Det. Pennanen take town of Kemi. Finns find a German liqueur storage, and attacks is halted until storage is empty. Soviets launch a major attack in Petsamo and take nickel mines, which have been the main reason for keeping the strong German army in the northern Finland. Mines were producing 80 % of nickel required by German war industries. 9 Oct 1944 11th Division begins advance along to Swedish border. 10 Oct 1944 Town of Rovaniemi, the capital of Lapland, is completely destroyed by Germans. 13 Oct 1944 Germans issue the order to destroy everything in Lapland. 16 Oct 1944 Finns reach the ruins of Rovaniemi. 18 Oct 1944 Armored Division continues advance after battles in Rovaniemi slowly, because of thousands of mines. Border Guards Brigade takes Kemijärvi and ends it's war there. 1 Nov 1944 Demobilization of army to peacetime levels begins according to the terms of the interim peace. This begins to hamper action against Germans. 6 Nov 1944 Advance in north-west Finland stops in front of strong German defense line. No real attacks can be attempted since unit stregths are decreasing rapidly because of the demobilization. Soon only 1st Division is pushing the Germans to Norway. It's combat value is low and it waits until Germans leave voluntarily. 12 Nov 1944 Sales of alcohol is banned in Finland until 6 Dec, so that the demobilized soldiers can't make trouble. 14 Nov 1944 Central Council of Finnish Jews issues a statement that freedom and rights of the Finnish Jews have not been violated in any way during the war. 352 Jews fought in the Continuation War and 23 were killed in action. 18 Nov 1944 Germans leave the northernmost tip of Finland. 22 Nov 1944 Soviets return first batch of POW's. 5 Dec 1944 Demobilization is complete, the size of Puolustusvoimat is 37000 men (it's even now approximately of same size). Largest army in the history of Finland is history now. 31 Dec 1944 Mannerheim gives up the command of Puolustusvoimat. 1945 6 Jan 1945 National dance-ban is lifted. It has been illegal to dance during the wartime. 10 Jan 1945 German 7. Gebirgsdivision retreats from it's positions in Lätäseno. Only a very small portion of Finland is still in German hands. 12 Jan 1945 General Heinrichs is appointed to the post of the commander of Puolustusvoimat. 25 Apr 1945 Last Germans withdraw to Norway. Two infantrymen are killed in the last clash of the Second World War in Finland. 27 Apr 1945 Last shots are fired in the Finnish territory. 28 Apr 1945 Commander of the III Corps, General Siilasvuo reports that the mission of Puolustusvoimat is complete. Second World War is over for Finland. ---------------------------------------------- This needs to be represented. Any plans on making a patch that will allow Finland to fight against Germany?

Here's a site for you guys to chew on: http://www.geocities.com/~fi1877/ Finnish Armored forces of WW2

Sure it is, especially if you're a riflemen without attrition to pay debt to

What's all this arguing about exactly? I got the answer to my question on the first page....lol. The finns are cool guys. Not many countries in the world could accomplish what they did in the winter war.

I've seen plenty of cmbo campaigns running but where are the cmbb campaigns? Anybody setting one up?

LOL, this was meant to find out what's going on with the lack of schrecks and the ability for finns to fight the germans in the lapland war. IMO if you guys have questions about this subject go to www.winterwar.com or do a search at google.

First of all, Finland purchased alot of Panzerfausts/Schrecks from Germany in 1944 when Russia was at their border again. Russian suffered alot of casualties because of this, but eventually won again. This is impossible with the current situation. As much as I love Lahti AT rifles, they were not used in 1944. I will get the exact figures if needed. Secondly, after Finland was defeated they were obliged to fight against the Germans as part of a peace gesture to Russia. This is called the Lapland War. Finland should be able to fight against Germany after the summer of 1944. [ October 12, 2002, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Wehr ]

C'mon, this is unfair! You guys need to come out with a patch that allows the use of Finnish units in the scenario edior. The Finns are the main reason why I bought this game.

I got my CD in the mail yesterday with no scratches what so ever (in other words, just fine). I remember that I looked because those paper CD containers have given me problems in the past. Anyway: The game installed correctly and I even played for about a half hour with no errors. I left the game in my CDROM over-night and when I came to play it today after work my CD ROM does not even detect a CD. I tested other CD's and they worked fine. I looked at the back of the CM:BB CD to find no scratches but something else...sort of strange. I found that it was smeared but not in the usual sense. In the reflection, it seemed as though it had an "internal" smearing almost as though the inside of the CD itself had been melted. I cannot play the game because today, it simply refuses to read the CD. Has anybody else had this problem?

How would I go about doing that, can that be done off of my computer, or only the server? ------------------ 116th Panzerdivision "windhund" WWIIONLINE

Yeah, can't connect or have anyone connect to me. Is there a way to fix this? I read the INTERNET PLAY README file and got kind of confused. ------------------ 116th Panzerdivision "windhund" WWIIONLINE