Ok well im sure its the latest veersion, dl it the other week ago. 06.4. havent really tried the alt-tab out to desktop deal, but worth a try. yes i do make the connection, the opp made it to where we were both lookin at the battefield. i had searched but didnt find a answer or real hit on this prob. i dont think it had to do with the port thing though, but i guess ya never know. you think some antivirus in the background could cause this? i really wish i had a good memorey, then id remember what the prob was years ago. thanks for tryin to help out, any other ideas plz let me know. thanks again btw its on CMBB