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    Russian army under equipped?

    BTR Ive always wondered - now mind I cant read cyrillic - everything Ive managed to find specific to T80s doesnt point to the turbine being bad, to my American eyes it looks like the tank just got named as junk when some crap general rolled a ton of T80s without infantry into Grozny and that the tanks gun elevation limits sucked and they couldnt hit rooftops. I point this out because Abrams turbine engines seem to have worked pretty well, from what I gather, being quiet and making the tanks fast. Can you please elaborate what about the actual tank made it so hated and almost phased out immediately after 94? What are the advantages besides gas use of a diesel over a turbine? Diesels probably more robust and in line with Russian tradition of field tough equipment?
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    How Much We Admire North Korea

    So is thisbthread the wargamer equivalent to women fan clubs going to ted bundys trial, or richard ramirez, etc? Lol
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    How Much We Admire North Korea

    Idk they dont do it for me the same way those loveable Russian Rascals though
  4. Sublime

    Vostok-2018

    the TOS does seem to be a very popular weapons system.. I certainly think it.s a "cool" sounsing tank, but since Im American it all sounds pretty bad since in the unlikely event I ever do get shot at with heavy Russian equipment it would be in a WW3 scenario where TOS' would be the weapons of nightmares. Its basically a T72 with a MLRS on top that shoots FAB rockets right?
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    Vostok-2018

    you and the PRC guys better get more definitive border zones on your Siberian border - all Trump/Nixon comparisons aside if Putin calls Trump offering a massive nuke strike on PRC we may say yes this time
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    Vostok-2018

    also @ikalugin on the supposed US strikes on Wagner group troops several months back - is this getting any coverage in Russia? Or is it considered bs?
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    Vostok-2018

    Im surprised - of course I could just be completely ignorant of it - that Russias leaders arent more wary of contractors becoming a shadow army of sorts. I guess perhaps thats why theyre technically illegal. I wonder how the PRC handles this - they have odd approaches (to western eyes) on mil matters, like militarizing their fishermen..
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    Vostok-2018

    interesting. I wonder if they.ll have more luck than we.ve been having with ours.. Do you think China will become a threat to its neighbors for example say in another 20 years? See for example the South China Sea.. Seems like the US govt handles them the same way except theyre not illegal. It also makes deniability a lot easier, depending on the situation. They also seem to be a liability in some ways, if you look at the US in Iraq those Blackwater contractors getting killed in 04 forced the military to conduct not one but two seperate major offenses to clear out Fallujah. ( to be fair to the contractors that would probably have happened anyways in some form, the city was out of control, but it forced the military to DO SOMETHING) - the 2nd offensive Phantom Fury probably being the heaviest ground combat seen in large numbers by US troops since Vietnam.
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    Vostok-2018

    Absolutely. I cant read cyrillic and I just was reading your observation of the PRC units. Now as Im sitting on a subway with my $hit 4g connection can you explain what you mean by the Chinese mix in guns? You mean wheeled like towed or like Strykers? Overall whats your opinion of the PRC? (military) How DO you feel this exercises relates to the Donbass anyways? The 5 BTG comment, do you think there.ll be a Russian surge as it were just to end the situation? Would Russia ever tolerate Chinese 'volunteer' troops in Donbass ( I doubt it too close to home ) or Syria in your opinion? Whats your opinion on contracter groups. Wagner group for example? But also lately in the news theres been worry amongst some Mr Prince of the now defunct Blackwater USA will convince Trump to make Afghanistan a contractor war.. Opinion? I think its asking for disaster. I point to Fallujah early 04 and also note those contractors had a huge US military prescence in country with them.
  10. Sublime

    Vostok-2018

    You may very well have me on Switzerland. I still think its almost a joke exercise to compare the US and Russian regimes and how cynically they practiced policy. Oh yes the US killed hundreds of thousands but when the margin is vs tens of millions... well. The civil war is a stretch. For one the South seceded then attacked the North. Its not like they simply left. And theres a lot of other issues tied up in the Civil War I dont think its very applicable. As far as CIA vs GRU/SVD/KGB Id say we have WAAAAY more (and I distinctly remember when my father got grounded from flying and moved into intel he always insisted that US intel sucked vs Soviet in everything, especially HUMINT, except for SIGINT. Yea we had a bunch of silly hare brained plots to kill Castro. None worked and the fact theyre so well known attests to how epically they failed. You take that vs the infamous ricin pellet, the Skripals, etc etc etc. Iran flight is a good point and Id forgotten about that. Of course a few points because Im me: The US didnt double down and start blaming EVERYONE else. IIRC the Captain got canned and there were apologies blah blah. Contrast this with KAL007 or MH370 for example. Its actually not your bad on OT, Ive been the worst offender on the thread and Ikalugins comment was directed at you. You didnt do anything wrong.. P.S. I gotta add the Swiss the more I think about it is dubious. As in who is worse the hitman or the person who helps someone hide the murdered persons money for example? Most would say the murderer is the worst of course. As far as US law for almost the entire country if youre there for a murder, even just as a driver or to dig a hole youre in the same boat as the actual killer. I think this example is a little harsh on the Swiss but its an example, the Swiss hardly have a monopoly on being good in the world.. Just because they dont bother many people how many do they help? How many nations send out the amount of plain food and medicine in aid as the US for example? I honestly think also Switzerland is so small.. I think you can only perhaps see the true character of a nation when theyre in a truly strong position and you see how they work with it. In this way history will be very harsh on Nazi Germany the SU and unfortunately America as well. Its just by degrees.. Ah who am I kidding the human race has less than 50 years left IMO Switzerland may have been neutral a long time now but that doesnt mean they didnt turn a blind eye to what the Nazis were doing and also doing quite healthy business with them. Sometimes trying to help people and killing other people along the way may sadly be justified. If 90 percent of the globe acted like Switzerland leaving the Nazis and another 9% what would have happened? No this isnt justification for Grenada or Iraq 03 or any nonsense, its just the Swiss are hardly angels, theyve just hidden their horns and pitchforks behind a facade of gold.
  11. Sublime

    Vostok-2018

    well first of all I often go with the intent part of war. War is messy and no nation has clean hands. I do challenge anyone on this forum to find a nation thats as consistently gone out of its way to help other nations, and gone out of its way at the expense of American lives to minimize civilian casualties. Yes the US wasnt invited into Syria. Of course I believe that Assad has used Chem weapons on civilians and he turned peaceful protests during the Arab spring violemt by machine gunning crowds. I can get behind a limited US campaign of bombing and SF to try to let the Syrians get rid of Asad on their own. I certainly see more honor in that than propping up a blatantly murderous regime. I do have major problems with the US turning a blind eye to Saudi and Paki perfidy especially towards the west. ll things considered Id say NO our hands are NOT as. dirty as the Russians unless you want to count American history back to the indiands but discount Russian history until post 91. Even then still iffy. Ikalugin is right though its OT we can PM back and forth but I believe youre russian ( right? ) and Im American and we.re probably not goung to reach a concensus. Last thing. Maybe Crimea was like an Anschluss. The Donbass is definitely not though. Thats a bonafide real war. Also how many airliners have any western countries cold war or post cold war downed? How many nerve agent or journalist assasinations have been laid at the feet of the west vs Russia? I could go on and on... The US is no innocent lamb and trust me Im under no illusions as a convicted felon in the US the govt wouls probably either put me in a camp for the duration or in a grunt unit if a major war broke out. I dont think any govt really cares about people like me ( poor money wise ) I digress though. P.S. Dezert Storm WAS NOT NATO. It axtually was a bigger coalition than the Allies in Ww2 for christs sakes even the Soviets were ok with it. OIF 2. DEFINITELY wasnt NATO the Germans and French were apopoleptic we invaded as was much of the world. In favt the ONLY time NATO has ever invomed article 5 for defense was the US for 9/11 ( insanely ironic we.re bitching NATOs a drag on us considering the only time it got forced into war it was on our behalf) Libya was NATO but I disnt rlly agree with it I mean Gaddafi finaly was xooperating. I think that was cery short sighted because he.s held up as the dictators nightmare/why the US cant be believed nowadays. And dont get me wrong the US ended up 100 percent on board but the initial Libya effort was spearheaded mainly by the French and Brits and we kinda got sucked in.
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    Vostok-2018

    Axtually youre right NATO did invade Afghanistan. Though for really good reasons, much better reasons than say Crimea is Russian because we say it should be. Im iffy on Kosovo - that was hardly an invasion and even NATO in 01 was nothing like an invasion compared to say the SU invasion. Id also like to add that at least we ID our soldiers and dont play games with un id.d roops or say miners are ordering t72s on ebay.. but whatever. I can understand with good reasom Russian paranoia about invasion. but thats simply not reality anymore. The gigantic nuclear stockpile assures that as have the repeayed statements that if russia is invaded or allies invaded or it feels its serious enough itll go nuclear. So frankly the idea of NATO aggressively invading Russia is a serious joke. The collective public opinion in yhe west would never support it, itd be an unwinnable war and everyone knows it. Russia has NOTHING Americans want except for them.to maybe Fu*k with other countries more. The idea of Russia invading neighbors is far less far fetched than NATO trying to invade Russia the idea is simply ludicrous. Just as the US public IMO was taken advantage of and plaued afyer 911 into invading Iraq (apparently it was said Afghan wasnt target rich enough) so the govt used this wave of patriotism and outrage to statt a series of forever wars. Breeding fear of terrrorism to keep us in perpetual war. just like i fear your govt keeps the nato bogeyman alive
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    Vostok-2018

    Actually no I believe you misread my post - I wasnt proposing a false flag operation, plus what government east or west would rationally say "yes we.re practicing false flag attacks to start a war" it kind of destroys the false flag. No me referring to the false flag isea was statement of fact about how Germany initiated its invasion of Poland in 1939 ( I will swipe at Russian revisionism these days that exculpates the SU from responsibility for costarting WW2 with the Nazis and helpiny invade Poland) My statement about defensive beginnings to operations east AND WEST (again in the cold war even when doctrine changed in the 80s to almost immediate counterattacks it always presupposed War Pac invasion, I believe this is on both sides to make these war games palatable PR wise) Also on the maps ubfortunately I dont read cyrillic. I do disagree with the threat the Baltics/ Europe faces vs what really is Russian paranoia over NATO. Every country thats joined has done so willingly - no nations ever had an armed incursion to keep it in like several Warpac countries. Russia also invaded Crimea in the last 5 years, NATO hasnt invaded anywhere.
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    Vostok-2018

    Yes along with the infamous radio station attack that was staged complete with murdered KZ inmates dressed in Polish Army uniforms. I do remember in the 2017 exercises reading that the script of the game had a 'western/nato invasion' which then was beat back amd the Baltics and Kaliningrad swiftly reunited with Russia..
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    Vostok-2018

    to be fair it seems every nations large exercises seem to have an initial defensive stage (maybe for PR?) before its assumed the enemy attack is parried and counterattack is begun. That was the Vostok 17 script and the script in countless Cold War NATO wargames..
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    Could there be a CM Korea?

    you said it not me
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    Vostok-2018

    Well first off you definitely know a lot more than me about all this but wouldnt it make more sense to have the BluFor bombers try to hit something somewhere in Siberia -( hell its so big you could make a fictitious country for the wargame and you could make it one of the top 5 countries size wise) - so said bombers could perhaps be intercepted tracked practice gained al around? After all I highly doubt the USAF is going to allow those F22 pilots to fly to Russia to debrief on the Tu95 performance during the exercise. (Then again as long as Trump stays out of it otherwise I fear we may GIVE Russia our 'literally invisible, you cant see them at all' stealth aircraft fleet away for being such great guys P.S. It may seem we.re speaking about different events. How would Tu95MS flying towards Alaska be any use in repelling a cruise missile attack? That seems more like them DOING the attack? Interesting you noted who usually plays Blue - why those units? Why not rotate who plays Blue are those units somehow more Western or foreign than other Russian units? How did that 'tradition' start?
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    Russian army under equipped?

    awesome thanks
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    Could there be a CM Korea?

    didnt read any posts - Id love CM Nam but I dont think graphics are there yet where we could do jungle combat that didnt look off graphically. No, I just posted because I remembered when I played CMSF alot back in the day I liked the Canucks best if I wanted to get thw most Americans in Vietnam feeling equipment wise. Mostly based off their m16 lookalikes and the squad lmgs and compositions.
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    John McCain - RIP

    RIP to a true man of honor even if that meant not toeing the party line - never afraid to correct outright lies falsehoods and smears even against his opponents. Respected even by his N Vietnamese captors to this day, and as was noted as the son of a Rear Admiral he could have secured release after a year. Ibstead he wouldnt leave his comrades behind and stayed another 5 years in hell for it. It boils my blood that a man who said STDS during the era of free love was "his Vietnam" had the nerve to insult McCains service and courage. I truly feel for his family and Im truly saddened that our country has become so damned divided that his death wasnt even enough to get certain people to show some respect.
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    Vostok-2018

    I disagree about the bombers playing a BluFor role... There.d be no way to evaluate RedFor intercepting the target or anything and the geography is going the wrong way. Much more sense to have the bombers flying FROM the West and see if they can be intercepted or whatever. Theres also a good chance the Tu95MS flight maybe had nothing to do with the exercise at all. Of course the rest I agree - Russia being RedFor, US use of cruise missiles ( and from the US perspective why not? No downed pilots on TV, etc etc)
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    Vostok-2018

    Id agree except for reading the other say Tu95 MS.S were intercepted (by F22s) near the Aleutian Islands participating in the exercises presumably pretending to fire cruise missiles at US missile defenses/radar sites.
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    Vostok-2018

    Most definitely not surprising. According to Wiki ( yes I know..) to this day theres almost monthly firefights and raids. The nuclear factor definitely would be scary and very interesting - think of it as a gigantic test for mankinds survival - can 2 nuke powers fight a war without it sucking in the whole world? If said powers use nuke will they be able to contain them to battlefield use only? ( Given the Pakistani's experience with terrorist groups and stuff I fear a 'terrorist' would detonate a nuke in say Delhi and Pakistan would deny responsibility. Still wouldnt stop Karachi being blown away. Anyways - yeah if both powers cannot refrain from nuclear armageddon if a war breaks out then humanity is more definitely doomed than ever as that bodes incredibly badly for any future conflicts with nuke armed states. Lastly sorry to go OT but I think most of us ineviteably will see a nuclear exchange, 50/50 on a end of the world type, in our lives. Why? N Korea. Theyve released endless propaganda showing DC NYC getting nuked, endless nuclear threats.... Wait did I say threats? I dont see them as threats I see it more like theyve explicitly told us what theyre doinh to destroy the US every step of the way and are following through on it. Just you watch when they have ICBMs they reliably sure they can shower on America, methinks they wont be so hermit-like and become verrry aggressive. Anyways Vostok 18 is very interesting as its a pretend peer on peer war. Fair nuff. Chinas in though... that leaves the US as near peer. Not as scary as the news makes it out though, we did 40 years of drills against VERY thinly veiled Russian (redland or whatever) faux nations and for example when my father did USAF SERE training in the late 70s the fake guards pretended tp be East German ( i wondered about this then realized we probably had a lot more military German speakers in that time than Russian) with faux KGB interrogators coming in. Apparently very very rough. they could break a couple bones and cauae none permanent injury. According to my father he was one of the last guys runming around uncaptured in phase I and the guards played a dirty trick and using loudspeakers told him the ecervise was over and to come out. When he did he got his @ss kicked. "NEVER BELIEVE COMMIE PROPAGANDA!" lol
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    Vostok-2018

    i think an Indo Pakistani war would be MUCH more exciting though I wouldnt want to see it
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    Russian army under equipped?

    im an 80s baby whether or not it deserves it the t80 will always be the soviet tank that gives me wood
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