jackhammer

I remember "They saved Hitler's brain". They had Hitler's head in a jar. It was the most stupid movie I have ever seen. I think he said one word throughout the movie-schnell!

(But the point is that German troops were trained not to be afraid of enemy armour.-Dorosh ) LOL. I guess those weren't german troops who threw away their rifles and hauled ass when 2 measly battalions of matildas counterattacked at Arras! (They trained their infantry to fight tanks because they knew that if Germany had them, others would eventually.Dorosh) I guess thats why they issued their inf 37mm "antitank" guns. Guns that could not even destroy their own tanks never mind anybody else. no too many germans or anybody else was keen on tackling tanks with "antitank weopons" such as molotov cocktails, mines or any other improvs. Not until 1943 did the germans have a reasonable weopon in the panzerfausts, 4 years after the war started!

Pretty pleaseeeee! can I have it too? My e-mail is herky29@earthlink.net. Thanks very much.

(Does Leonhard point to a "good army" as an example? I would argue that, no matter how much you disagree with its doctrine or techniques, a good hard look at its battlefield track record would convince anyone that the US Army gets as close to that qualification as an organization that size can.Scout PL)I'd be willing to lay odds that Leonhard has pictures of Rommel and Manstein on his wall. It's really amazing to listen to these "Maneuverists" Almost every book and/or article written by these people use the german army of ww2 as an example on how to fight the "right" way. The germans kicked ass on 2nd rate militaries and they're gods for doing so. The US army ( with help from the other coalition forces) kicks ass on Iraq and their a poor army because they did not follow Manstein's playbook. Read the Maneuver handbook by Hooker. It's a real hoot. Just about every victorious campaign the germans fought in ww2 is used to illustrate how cheap and easy war can be. Never mind that they lost and lost decisively. After all, to quote captain Bolger they sure looked good losing didn't they.(The original plan was to attack and to crush the Republican Guard, because that was identified as what would cause a collapse of the Iraki army. But the Republican Guard was not destroyed because by the time the Army got around to it, the war was all over for all practical purposes because the Iraki Army had already collapsed-Henri)The US army didn't get "around" to it because of 2 very good reasons. 1) when the ground war kicked off the RG hauled ass away from the USA. They did not stand and fight. To have done so would have been their death warrant. 2) after seeing pictures of the devastion that was being wrought over the Iraqis Gen. Colin Powell urged Pres. Bush to end the war before US and world opinion turned against us. If the vii corps had not been stopped the RG would have been annialated. Also just because the RG was a strength does not mean they were not the critical vulnerability. If you have read your maneuver "bibles" you would know that a critical vulnerability can also be an enemy's strength. Even if I acceptted your argument that the Iraqi c3I was its critical vul. that had already been destroyed by allied airpower. There wasn't anything left of c3i for the US army to target. The RG was the logical and correct target.

go to abebooks.com. i've gotten lots of good books there.

Enemy at the gates is indeed a very good book. If you want a copy go to abebooks.com. They have 16 used copies for sale, 4 between 2.00 dollars and 10 dollars. You can find alot of classic out-of-print war books for very cheap prices there.

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yeah I/O error, that was an hilariously ignorant post. Quit smoking crack and just maybe you'll sound intelligent.

He left the military right after the war. He died earlier this year.

"He who defends everything defends nothing" This famous quote was uttered by Frederick the Great. My favorite tactic is to start on one flank and roll up the flags one by one.