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    JonS reacted to Twisk in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Fundamentally this is a thread about the Russo-Ukraine war that is (unsurprisingly) pro-Ukrainian. So the U.S. political party that refused to bring aid to a vote is going to catch the most flak here. And like yea AOC might be destructive to some process but she isn't destructive to getting Ukraine the materials the country needs to fight the Russian invasion. The House vote tally was overwhelming for aid so why wasn't there a vote on the aid 6 months ago?

    Like I don't want to talk about gun rights, or schools, or abortion, or any number of other U.S. hot button topics. But I've been sitting here for ~6 months watching as one particular party refused to allow Ukraine what it needs. And frankly I'm not an unbiased observer about this and its one of the reasons I stepped away from the thread for a while. Its hard to come in here to hear and see bad news about the war and then be non-partisan about the partisan politics that are getting Ukrainians killed. Like if you trawl this thread you will see video evidence on nearly every page of real soldiers and civilians who died needlessly for some partisan BS.

     
     
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    JonS got a reaction from Sequoia in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    US design for maintainability is generally pretty excellent. It makes for expensive procurement and high maintenance budgets (ie, swap the entire Abrams power pack rather than fix the fault lòcally) but it does that in order to increase availability rates at the pointy end.
    Given that general approach, I'd be surprised if the Patriot was an exception. Given *that* I'd assume there is more internal damage that both can't be seen in a photo and can't be fixed in Ukraine.
    Or, alternately, the priority to date has been on pushing end-user equipment into Ukraine, and not on the support systems that keep them operational and in users hands. Edit: So what would be a simple field repair for a US unit has to go back to the States when its operated by Ukraine.
    But weighing against that second conclusion is the existence of USAREUR; if it was conceivably fixable forward at Grafenwohr or Kaiserlauten (or by any of the European operators of Patriot) then they would. That it wasn't suggests significant but non-obvious damage.
    I think.
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    JonS got a reaction from Carolus in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from paxromana in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from quakerparrot67 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from zinz in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from alison in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from Holien in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from Ultradave in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Yeah, the Geneva conventions (or, more relevant in this case, the Geneva protocol and tangentially the Hague conventions and the 1980 convention) are all about inter-state conflict.
    What happens intra-state, between you and your local law enforcement body, is entirely a matter for you and your respective legislature to figure out. 'Geneva' doesn't care a whit.
    (Multiple edits: bloody sbellçzech)
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    JonS reacted to Ultradave in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Yes. It is. Interestingly though, not necessarily for crowd control by law enforcement. In war, yes, it's banned.
    Yeah, the training was fun. 🙂  Stay in the shed to prove your mask works, and then take off your mask to show what happens without the mask (I guess to prove that the mask really works and it wasn't just a harmless steam sauna). Got the message for sure.
    Dave
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    JonS reacted to danfrodo in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    your attempt to play the both-siderism game is pathetic and shows an incredible amount of ignorance, both in historic and in current events.  What Gingerich did was completely unprecedented.  What McConnell did was completely unprecedented.  And Trump is off the charts for breaking both norms and laws.  ANd where on the left are the insane ones that are wielding power?   Where's the dem Matt Gaetz?  MTGreene?  American democracy is on the brink and it is due to one side and one side only.  Guess what --  Biden won't attempt to throw the country into a civil war to unlawfully try to cling to power.  Trump's been doing that for last 4 years, including a full on mob-coup attempt that left people dead.  So just WTF are you even talking about?  Clearly you've been watching Hannity or some other bull**** monger and now you are parroting their bulls--t.
    So stop watching Fox & newsmax.  It makes you look like a damn fool.
    Oh, and please respond by telling me how it's the dems fault the GOP held up UKR aid for 3 months.  Dems aint the ones on Putin's payroll.  
     
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    JonS got a reaction from NamEndedAllen in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS reacted to Carolus in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    AFAIK, the chemical weapons convention includes irrititants. 
    The USA reserve the use for "defensive action" and when its usage could prevent civilian harm, but it cannot not be used offensively e.g. for house clearing.
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    JonS got a reaction from dan/california in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from croaker69 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from kimbosbread in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The dose makes the poison.
    Looking from the outside, there is absolutely zero equivalence between the two parties. None at all.
    There are ... odd individuals in both, but at the party level only one is utterly dysfunctional.
    Theres also this inconvenient reality:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
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    JonS got a reaction from Roach in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    US design for maintainability is generally pretty excellent. It makes for expensive procurement and high maintenance budgets (ie, swap the entire Abrams power pack rather than fix the fault lòcally) but it does that in order to increase availability rates at the pointy end.
    Given that general approach, I'd be surprised if the Patriot was an exception. Given *that* I'd assume there is more internal damage that both can't be seen in a photo and can't be fixed in Ukraine.
    Or, alternately, the priority to date has been on pushing end-user equipment into Ukraine, and not on the support systems that keep them operational and in users hands. Edit: So what would be a simple field repair for a US unit has to go back to the States when its operated by Ukraine.
    But weighing against that second conclusion is the existence of USAREUR; if it was conceivably fixable forward at Grafenwohr or Kaiserlauten (or by any of the European operators of Patriot) then they would. That it wasn't suggests significant but non-obvious damage.
    I think.
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    JonS got a reaction from Holien in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    US design for maintainability is generally pretty excellent. It makes for expensive procurement and high maintenance budgets (ie, swap the entire Abrams power pack rather than fix the fault lòcally) but it does that in order to increase availability rates at the pointy end.
    Given that general approach, I'd be surprised if the Patriot was an exception. Given *that* I'd assume there is more internal damage that both can't be seen in a photo and can't be fixed in Ukraine.
    Or, alternately, the priority to date has been on pushing end-user equipment into Ukraine, and not on the support systems that keep them operational and in users hands. Edit: So what would be a simple field repair for a US unit has to go back to the States when its operated by Ukraine.
    But weighing against that second conclusion is the existence of USAREUR; if it was conceivably fixable forward at Grafenwohr or Kaiserlauten (or by any of the European operators of Patriot) then they would. That it wasn't suggests significant but non-obvious damage.
    I think.
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    JonS got a reaction from cyrano01 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    US design for maintainability is generally pretty excellent. It makes for expensive procurement and high maintenance budgets (ie, swap the entire Abrams power pack rather than fix the fault lòcally) but it does that in order to increase availability rates at the pointy end.
    Given that general approach, I'd be surprised if the Patriot was an exception. Given *that* I'd assume there is more internal damage that both can't be seen in a photo and can't be fixed in Ukraine.
    Or, alternately, the priority to date has been on pushing end-user equipment into Ukraine, and not on the support systems that keep them operational and in users hands. Edit: So what would be a simple field repair for a US unit has to go back to the States when its operated by Ukraine.
    But weighing against that second conclusion is the existence of USAREUR; if it was conceivably fixable forward at Grafenwohr or Kaiserlauten (or by any of the European operators of Patriot) then they would. That it wasn't suggests significant but non-obvious damage.
    I think.
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    JonS got a reaction from chris talpas in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I mean ... I think that's a joke? But with MT "Empty" Greene (proud veteran of the Bowling Green Massacre) it's really really hard to be sure. That is bat**** enough to have actually leaked out of her ears.
     
    Edit: oh FFS. Those really were among the proposals she submitted 🥸
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    JonS got a reaction from Livdoc44 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I mean ... I think that's a joke? But with MT "Empty" Greene (proud veteran of the Bowling Green Massacre) it's really really hard to be sure. That is bat**** enough to have actually leaked out of her ears.
     
    Edit: oh FFS. Those really were among the proposals she submitted 🥸
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    JonS got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I mean ... I think that's a joke? But with MT "Empty" Greene (proud veteran of the Bowling Green Massacre) it's really really hard to be sure. That is bat**** enough to have actually leaked out of her ears.
     
    Edit: oh FFS. Those really were among the proposals she submitted 🥸
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    JonS reacted to danfrodo in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Vertically oriented solar panels are a thing, I just saw a whole video about it (w manufacturers/installers/users being interviewed).  They are not installed as fences, but can double as fences.  Installing solar panels as fences would be really stupid & expensive, unless these are old, worn out ones that don't work anymore.
    edit: By the way, california generated enough renewable energy to provide 100% of grid demand for for 30 of last 38 days.  That's california, the 6th largest economy on earth.  
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